The popular meme is that it is better if more people vote. Rock the vote, and all that. Why is it better if people vote, who would otherwise not vote? Those are the people that are unmotivated (for whatever reason). And so they should go vote just because it sounds good? If they had not enough passion, reason, or understanding to vote before, are they going to be doing good by voting now? Just because someone pushed them into doing do? No. They're just gumming up the works.
As cynical as that sounds, that's my view of it. The more simple minded people you have voting, the more of a mob rule (mobile vulgus) you have.Originally Posted by zombie67
The mob is the only way President Obama gets re-elected. I guarantee, if only tax payers were voting (no offense to those who can't find work), he would have lost (by a landslide).
I'm thankful I got a raise at work. It will offset the raise in taxes we'll probably be hit with in January. The people at corporate jet completion center on the other side of the airport weren't so lucky. They're shutting down. They're getting laid off. Where are they going to work? There are no jobs. This President has literally pressured some of our customers to not accept delivery of their planes. Then they whip up the mob saying this company that we're bailing out just bought a corporate jet (that they ordered 2 years ago).
This is not a democracy or a republic. It's an ochlocracy.
We almost had a President with experience in business and creating a working health care plan, but the mob defeated him.
Here's to 4 more years of the same thing we've been getting.
PS. Not implying that Democrats are the mob or uninformed. I have friends that are unapologetic socialists. They're informed and that's how they believe. I respect them for that. I'm talking about people that go by some perception, popularity or recent event. People that would vote differently if they thought ahead enough to realize how that vote will affect them.
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So we have to thanks that the end of the world is near. Not four years trigggl only till 21st of December.
Man you are very mad with Obama. The true is that for Europe and Asia, Obama was the preferred on the choices of power and of the people.
I don't really know why, maybe propaganda maybe other reasons, but it seems that Romney was very feared for all sides. For me I only desire the best for you all. Something tells me that the vice-president will be very important again. Too much of hate of too powerful persons that is not good.
The interests at stake are bigger than we can imagine and I don't think none is about jobs or small money, on both sides trigggl, they didn't arrive there being nice scouts. The power structure is unbelievable sordid for a common human being but we still don't learn, even after 2,500 years of democracy.
My hope is that things go for the best but as an historian lover I wouldn't bet on my hope. We will keep on living as we did before and will prevail as we did on the past thru all bad things nature and men invented.
They don't deserve that we hate each other or have strong arguments. We are only the victims of a net of interests, nothing else.
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I also have friends that are of the socialist genre. They are very informed and can work the system for every penny they can get from food stamps to medical care. Since we have a small savings account plus a small income we can't get half the items they get. It's all a matter of how much can the government give us because it is owed to us.
Obama has done just that. Let's put programs and money out there and we will win the vote. Now the big question is just how much it is going to cost us in the nex 4 years. Hopefully the House will put the breaks on spending but I wouldn't put any bets on it.
Here's to 4 trillion in 4 more years!
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Well, spending money a country does not have seems to be a constant all over the industrial nations; think of the EU, we are now spending billions we do not have on other European countries whose residents can do nothing but protesting against public saving plans...
CH
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I can tell you why: foreign policy. With Obama as our president, any other country can get away with more. Our defense is weaker, our intel ignored. Other countries love america in this position.You are very mad with Obama. The true is that for Europe and Asia, Obama was the preferred on the choices of power and of the people.
I don't really know why, maybe propaganda maybe other reasons, but it seems that Romney was very feared for all sides. For me I only desire the best for you all. Something tells me that the vice-president will be very important again. Too much of hate of too powerful persons that is not good.
Interesting fact...if you like what the President has done, he's done a lot. If you don't, he's done nothing...and the other Party is never at fault.
Politics is very dangerous on general way of speaking. Let me tell you at first that I really had no preferences for the Presidency of the USA.
My first preference as a true democratic person was that the one that had more votes should win and with that I am happy with the final result.
The Philadelphia convention was made on the original idea of the founding fathers that were worried with the hypothesis of a dictatorship of the majority and that is in fact a problem, the use of the word in the ancient Greek direct democracy show that for several times with many man.
This lead to a problem of electing a President with the minority of votes but it is not only that. It is because the USA election system consider the existence of states (and they were in the original) independent from each other and the states should have some strength.
The problem about Europe is today exactly the same, what kind of system should we construct for next few years and if the criticism can be easy after is not so easy before that is Europe's problem today.
This complex net of powers on all of our world is all connected as the economy or desires of the people is. Our global village, that we understand more and more that we are all connected. Yes we are the heating in Europe and Africa are more and bigger hurricanes to the America (north and south) and the heating in the America (north and south) are more and bigger hurricanes in the Pacific. We are all connected for good and bad things but that no one tells. Secrets that we all know.
We are all brothers living on the same world and depending on each other. Of all races and all religions and all colors, we are mankind looking for freedom and better lives for us and to our children. If the USA wants to be a part of it has to join to the rest of the world on the search of a better world for all.
But what do I know, only some dreams on a world of powers. I would like that all of us had a better life on the near future, WE THE PEOPLE of course.
Ricardo Ferreira
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One thing lightened my mood yesterday. Republicans gained control of both houses of Arkansas for the first time since Reconstruction. Obviously, Arkansans are tired of the rubber stamp the Federal government has been getting.
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[QUOTE=c303a;51695]I also have friends that are of the socialist genre. They are very informed and can work the system for every penny they can get from food stamps to medical care. Since we have a small savings account plus a small income we can't get half the items they get. It's all a matter of how much can the government give us because it is owed to us.
Working the system sounds hard. So I guess hard work does pay off. This is America after all!
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