CPU Rumors

[John P. Myers]

Um, that sounds like a fail waiting to happen. Imagine a chip where certain bits get flakey at much lower temps, but the chip insists it can keep overclocking beyond that point because the overall temp is "fine." I hope they have an ability to set a limit regardless of temp or that it learns from "unexpected" crashes/reboots.

I'm sure there will be some limit, but until the chips are available for testing, we won't know what to expect in real world conditions. TDP will be the limiter, but what that specifically translates to in clock rate i have no idea yet. However, even a conservative 10% above boost would be quite nice without pushing it too hard.

Got confirmation that not every Ryzen CPU will have this capability. Will be limited to the ones with "X" in the model number.

Here's a pricing/spec table:
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[John P. Myers]

Intel is now threatened by AMD CPUs and knows it. The price war has begun.


Intel Core i7-6950X ($1599 US) – $300 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6900K ($999 US) – $200 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6850K ($549 US) – $150 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6800K ($359 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-5820K ($319 US) – $100 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700K ($299 US) – $80 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700K ($259 US) – $140 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-4790K ($279 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-7700 ($289 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i7-6700 (259 US) – $90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7600K ($199 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6600K ($179 US) – $$90 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4690K ($189 US) – $70 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-7500 ($189 US) – $30 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-6500 ($179 US) – $50 Price Cut
Intel Core i5-4590 ($159 US) – $60 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7350K ($159 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-7100 ($114 US) – $15 Price Cut
Intel Core i3-6100 ($109 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G4400 ($49.99 US) – $20 Price Cut
Intel G3258 ($49.99 US) – $27 Price Cut

*Prices from MicroCenter

[Mumps]

Begun? Isn't it just resuming after a long hiatus?

[John P. Myers]

Begun? Isn't it just resuming after a long hiatus?

True. That is more accurate

[MindCrime]

I wonder how much of a hand "Optane" will have in Intel's 7th gen CPU prices. Maybe none, and the Optane drive will pick up the difference. I'm reading speculation that it'll be around $2/gb, and this is suppose to be your primary disk?

[John P. Myers]

I wonder how much of a hand "Optane" will have in Intel's 7th gen CPU prices. Maybe none, and the Optane drive will pick up the difference. I'm reading speculation that it'll be around $2/gb, and this is suppose to be your primary disk?

Intel pretty much requires you to have a regular HDD along with Optane, though they don't use those exact words. They promise SSD-like performance if you do that, even though you've been able to buy hybrid HDD/SSDs from WD and Seagate for years now. Also with the price of SSDs dropping quite a bit lately, affording good capacity isn't so much of an issue anymore.

And it's not just a 7th Gen CPU, you also must have the 200 series chipset and a free m.2 slot for this ridiculousness.

[MindCrime]

Yeah but... "Its ram speed storage"

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[Mumps]

"10 times faster than existing SSD Storage."

[John P. Myers]

"10 times faster than existing SSD Storage."

Sure, but due to Intel's claims about how much faster each new CPU gen since Sandy Bridge was supposed to be compared to how much faster it actually was, i've labeled it as "marketing hype" in my head

Worth pointing out they're comparing their speed to *SATA* SSD speeds, not m.2 SSD speeds which are already 6x faster than the fastest SATA 3 SSDs. I'm yawning at Intel over this.

[MindCrime]

Sure, but due to Intel's claims about how much faster each new CPU gen since Sandy Bridge was supposed to be compared to how much faster it actually was, i've labeled it as "marketing hype" in my head

Worth pointing out they're comparing their speed to *SATA* SSD speeds, not m.2 SSD speeds which are already 6x faster than the fastest SATA 3 SSDs. I'm yawning at Intel over this.

yeah seems like might next storage solution will be an m2 solution as it'll be the best value of (density/speed)/$

next main desktop probably along the lines of 4790(k)/m.2/Rx(400/500)