I know it's a mute ( or do I mean moot, feel free to correct me ) point but if Sicituradastra and Team Musketeer never spun off from us we would have been untouchable. It looks like Germany could be had for 2nd but it's still a shame. I looked up some old names, looks like Kevint is done but I recognized some others. Especially here. Nice to see the people who stayed. I'll send you guys a PM soon enough. Patrick