JPM - Open discussion on next gen CPUs please?

[John P. Myers]

As more information pops up on this topic, it's possible this whole debate is pointless, but still strange news. It seems some sites have been able to somewhat confirm there will be no desktop CPUs at all in Broadwell. If that's true, of course BGA makes perfect sense as the chips would be used for all-in-one's at the "high" end, and go down from there to laptops, ultrabooks, etc. But no desktop CPUs? Hmmmm...

So, who knows? Of course Intel itself will neither confirm nor deny anything at all about products that are not yet made public (by Intel).

[John P. Myers]

[zombie67]

Thanks!

Two different, yet almost identical, unlocked speeds? That's odd.

Also, still no 6 core models. *sigh*

[Fire$torm]

One of the column headers reads FMB.

FMB? As in Fixed module Block? Or Fixed Mounting Block? Or something completely different?

[John P. Myers]

One of the column headers reads FMB.

FMB? As in Fixed module Block? Or Fixed Mounting Block? Or something completely different?

I *think* it stands for Flexible Motherboard, as in the chip is designed to work in a variety of different motherboards, instead of restricted to certain types the way the Atoms are. The number underneath, such as "2013D" denotes the specification or version of the FMB conformity.

[Fire$torm]

OK Thanks.

[John P. Myers]

Just came across some new info that Haswell will have the VRMs integrated on the same substrate as the CPU. The VRMs will be on a separate 25A power chip and capable of up to 320 phases (20 VRMs @ 16 phases). This move should make motherboards cheaper, but less customizable by manufacturers. No word yet if this will increase the cost of Haswell over it's ivy bridge counterparts.

[John P. Myers]

What's even more interesting, and reinforces the "desktop BGA apocalypto" theory, is the fact that there won't be a dual-core Broadwell processor in the LGA1150 package. So most entry- thru mainstream chips, which are dual-core, will be built in the BGA package. So for anyone with less than say $200 to spend on motherboard+CPU, motherboards with CPUs hardwired will be sold in the markets

Well that's good news if it holds true.

The bad news? It's been reported Haswell has been delayed until sometime between May 27th and June 7th. My guess is June 2nd since it's a sunday and that's when Intel typically releases new chips. There is no known reason for this delay, other than Computex beginning on June 4th which Intel could use as a grand release party. As i mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, Intel has abandoned the tick-tock scheme of releasing a new line once every year. So, even though Intel has had working Haswell chips for a very long time, and has had working 14nm Broadwell chips for a couple months or 3, they're just sitting around not caring a whole lot about it. Damn you AMD for sucking so hard

[John P. Myers]

Dun dun dunnnnnn....

Intel to Exit the Desktop Motherboard Business After Haswell

No big deal though since Intel only produces the 2nd largest variety of motherboards (Asus is first) *cough*

The end of an era.

[zombie67]

Dun dun dunnnnnn....

Intel to Exit the Desktop Motherboard Business After Haswell

No big deal though since Intel only produces the 2nd largest variety of motherboards (Asus is first) *cough*

The end of an era.

That link takes me to a login page. This one worked for me:

http://hothardware.com/News/The-End-...rboard-Market/

Edit: Now that I read the article....

Meh. I was never a fan of intel mobos. They did not allow OC back when I was still looking at their line up.