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Mike029
05-20-11, 02:48 PM
Ok the other GTX 460 died today. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
I'm returning it to Newegg and the question of the day is;
I have a $270.00 credit to get a higher end card or just let them replace these two cards? I'm looking for the most credits. Can I purchase one Fermi card that will match 2 GTX 460's for around $270.00? How much higher would I have to go to get one card that does what 2 cards can do?
One card will mean freeing up a pci-e slot for the future. =P~ But I don't wish to sacrifice credits today.
I'm going to put in an ATI card in this box. What could the problem be? I'm plugged into a power strip with a breaker so I don't think it's that. I'm fairly confidant that it's not a mb issue or a ps problem as everything else did not burn out. The cards that died were in different slots in the mb. I'm going to wait for a few suggestions from you guys before I call newEgg. Thanks for the help.
John P. Myers
05-20-11, 02:59 PM
:-?
Bad luck? Was the other 460 that died also an Asus?
Mike029
05-20-11, 03:14 PM
:-?
Bad luck? Was the other 460 that died also an Asus?
Yea both Asus ENGTX 460. The serial numbers are off my 4 digits. I thought that was a good thing.
Yea both Asus ENGTX 460. The serial numbers are off my 4 digits. I thought that was a good thing.
Sounds like a bad batch of cards to me.
Mike029
05-20-11, 03:39 PM
Seems my options are;
two GTX 460's $270 to $300
one GTX 480 $300
one GTX 570 $300
Most credits?
John P. Myers
05-20-11, 03:46 PM
Seems my options are;
two GTX 460's $270 to $300
one GTX 480 $300
one GTX 570 $300
Most credits?
Probably do noticably better with 2 460's.
How much were you getting a day with those 2 GTX 460's Mike?
Mike029
05-20-11, 03:54 PM
How much were you getting a day with those 2 GTX 460's Mike?
Over 600k a day
Dandasarge
05-20-11, 03:58 PM
Seems my options are;
two GTX 460's $270 to $300
one GTX 480 $300
one GTX 570 $300
Most credits?
the 570 will out produce the 480, not by a lot but it will also use 10% less power to do it. the 570 is in the 600k range.
Well, my GTX 465 flashed to a "470" has a 604,919 RAC (a major OC of coarse) so I am guessing you would do well a single card for now. If I am reading this chart correctly https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmK84VNiTf6vdHZmU0NzYm5fN181V21hNHRYSllEb VE&hl=en&pli=1&authkey=CIyG89sF#gid=0 you would get slightly better credits (and less power usage and heat) out of a GTX 570 over a GTX 480 or dual 460s. Hope that is helpful.
Mike029
05-20-11, 04:13 PM
Well, my GTX 465 flashed to a "470" has a 604,919 RAC (a major OC of coarse) so I am guessing you would do well a single card for now. If I am reading this chart correctly https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmK84VNiTf6vdHZmU0NzYm5fN181V21hNHRYSllEb VE&hl=en&pli=1&authkey=CIyG89sF#gid=0 you would get slightly better credits (and less power usage and heat) out of a GTX 570 over a GTX 480 or dual 460s. Hope that is helpful.
Thanks Joker. Helps a lot. I also have been reading the posts by Pop about one better card now fill the other slot later vs 2 low end cards. I'm leaning towards the 570 right now.
What ya think about this one? $294.00 after rebate, $335 if they never send the rebate. :rolleyes:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130622
GTX 570 all the way on this one. It will pretty much match 2 GTX 460s, and runs nice (cool & less power) compared to the other 400 series cards. Had I known that, I would have got 1 or 2 570's instead of the (4) 460 / 465 cards I got.
With a medium OC on GTX 570 I can get 650k per day, probably over 700 if I pushed it.
John P. Myers
05-20-11, 04:22 PM
Well, my GTX 465 flashed to a "470" has a 604,919 RAC (a major OC of coarse) so I am guessing you would do well a single card for now. If I am reading this chart correctly https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmK84VNiTf6vdHZmU0NzYm5fN181V21hNHRYSllEb VE&hl=en&pli=1&authkey=CIyG89sF#gid=0 you would get slightly better credits (and less power usage and heat) out of a GTX 570 over a GTX 480 or dual 460s. Hope that is helpful.
ehhh...actually according to that spreadsheet, 2 460s give you an extra 100GFLOPS over a 570. 460s also run a tad cooler than a 570 at a given overclock.
But getting the 570 will leave you with an open slot for something in the future for even more credits :D
Mike029
05-20-11, 04:28 PM
I'm on the phone with Newegg now and returning these and getting the card above unless someone thinks otherwise?
I have been CRUSHED once again by the JPM! :((b-(:((:p JK. Guess I read it wrong (or maybe I was just trying to push him into one card so he could upgrade later :-" ) we may never know. ;)
I personally think it looks like a good deal. Lets see what JPM says first.
ehhh...actually according to that spreadsheet, 2 460s give you an extra 100GFLOPS over a 570.... :D
This is true, but we know that the 500 series has had some optimizations, and also, the 500 series O/Ces higher (runs cooler due to said optimizations, can take more voltage, etc). So, theoretically, (2x) GTX 460 > (1) GTX 570.
However, in reality, Bryan is reporting nearly the same off his GTX 570 O/Ced per day as I am off 1 pair of my GTX 460s.
If I had the money at the time and knowledge to do it over again, I would go the single 570 route.
Dandasarge
05-20-11, 04:53 PM
I have been CRUSHED once again by the JPM! :((b-(:((:p JK. Guess I read it wrong (or maybe I was just trying to push him into one card so he could upgrade later :-" ) we may never know. ;)
I personally think it looks like a good deal. Lets see what JPM says first.
Joker,
what you say back is look at the performance Gflops. When I made that chart I based it off of PG the 500 series has a higher FSB then the 400 series. So it produces more at the same ghz. Like a p4 vs a sandy. If they were both @ 3ghz you would get more out of the sandy then the p4 at the same ghz. Same with the Nvidia cards, in that aspect the 570 will out produce the 460’s by 100gflps.
But in my math I base a 460 on 300k and an 570 on 600k a day both are just est. between brands and conditions both can move I’ve seen 460’s that would only produce 250k and I’ve seen 570’s that would be pushing 750k but I wouldn’t call either of them normal.
I like the MSI for less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127552
It's all good Sarge. Now we shall wait to see what Mike decides to do...
Dandasarge
05-20-11, 05:11 PM
Its a good deal the 460's have come down 40-50 bucks so really hes making 100 bucks on this deal.
I would take the Evga. It already is oc'ed and there is a promo code for an additional $20 off plus the $40 rebate. Top it off with registering the card and getting a lifetime warranty. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
It would appear the we have all decided you need a GTX 570 Mike. :p=))
Me thinks that he is not the only one.
John P. Myers
05-20-11, 05:49 PM
Yeah. If it were me i'd grab the 570 :)
Awesome deal, Mike! I would be leaning toward this MSI one: but we are splitting hairs at this level... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127568&cm_re=gtx_570-_-14-127-568-_-Product
Either way, what a sweet deal...Everyone wins. Now, looking forward to the day when I can start replacing all my GTX 460's with these or higher. :D :D :D (Ahem...I think I just had a "you're in the doghouse" moment!) ;)
(Ahem...I think I just had a "you're in the doghouse" moment!) ;)
Just point out how much you are saving by not paying the Cal. sales tax on line. That ought to help.
There is a sales tax in California??? :p
From Ballot Pedia:
California has a statewide sales tax of 8.25%. Municipalities are allowed to assess a local sales tax up to 9.25%.
The statewide 7.25% is allocated as:[1]
7.25% - State
5.00% - State of California's General Fund
0.25% - State of California's Fiscal Recovery Fund
0.50% - State of California's Local Revenue Fund
0.50% - State of California's Local Public Safety Fund
1.00% - Bradley-Burns Uniform Local Tax
0.25% - Local County - Transportation funds
0.75% - Local city/county - Operating funds
On April 1, 2009, the state sales and use tax increased by 1%, making the minimum sales tax statewide 8.25%.
Someone has to pay for all that sunshine. :D:D:D
Mike029
05-20-11, 08:43 PM
I'm returning the 2 cards tomorrow and already ordered the EVGA card. (*)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130622
It's already overclocked. I may be able to squeeze some more out of it and like Joker and DrPop said I'll have an open slot for another one or something better. ;)
Turning lemons into lemonade. :)
Just point out how much you are saving by not paying the Cal. sales tax on line. That ought to help.
Here's the worst of it, though: NEWEGG is one of the few that DO CHARGE the CA state sales tax to us!!! :p@-) Talk about lame.
... already ordered the EVGA card. (*)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130622...
Turning lemons into lemonade. :)
Man, what a nice card. Ah, just think when I can have 4 of these and pass all my 460's around to the team!? Someday...:cool:
I am so glad it all worked out good for you. I hope you get a long life of use from this wonderful card! :)
Beerdrinker
05-21-11, 02:03 AM
Man, what a nice card. Ah, just think when I can have 4 of these and pass all my 460's around to the team!? Someday...:cool:
I am so glad it all worked out good for you. I hope you get a long life of use from this wonderful card! :)
WOOT!!
You are gonna be smoking!!
What is going on with your CUDA card Beer?
Here's the worst of it, though: NEWEGG is one of the few that DO CHARGE the CA state sales tax to us!!! :p@-) Talk about lame.
Hehehe....seems like you just can't win. We'll just have to think of another reason for you to part with your hard earned dollars...Could you, being a Doc expense it as medical equipment...You know, for research purposes....or something.
Did someone say that Dr.s where devious or was that a figment of my imagination. All that college and look at what he can come up with.
Did someone say that Dr.s where devious or was that a figment of my imagination. All that college and look at what he can come up with.
:)) hmm ...the more I think about it, the more I feel I should move my reply above to the Team Only section. Please look for the post to show up there and I would enjoy your feedback, C303A.:cool:
Beerdrinker
05-21-11, 11:28 AM
What is going on with your CUDA card Beer?
I am getting there...:)
I has however been a bit longer than I expected.
I am looking into getting myself a 550Ti, which it seems my PSU can handle. 116W on load...( a good cool, silent one) So itīs either that or some sort of better Ati card, and then my current will go into my sons rig. (passive cooled, he will never know...Nor will the wife)
But ya know...Bills, bills, bills....But one gotta have a place to sleep, eat and all other stuff..:)
Mike029
05-21-11, 11:37 AM
I am getting there...:)
I has however been a bit longer than I expected.
I am looking into getting myself a 550Ti, which it seems my PSU can handle. 116W on load...( a good cool, silent one) So itīs either that or some sort of better Ati card, and then my current will go into my sons rig. (passive cooled, he will never know...Nor will the wife)
But ya know...Bills, bills, bills....But one gotta have a place to sleep, eat and all other stuff..:)
Well good news overall.. :)
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