Which browser are you hooked on?

[Beerdrinker]

Hey there.

Been a firefox user since the early days (ver 1.01) but as of lately it seems very "buggy" and even lagging at some points..I just could not take it anymore..!


Took the plunge and installed Chrome yesterday. Man, what a difference! And with the X-marks plugin one does not even have to worry about bookmarks...:p

So which browser are YOU hooked on??

[Fire$torm]

I too have been using FireFox since ver.1. Currently running v3.5.17 with 20 active addons. But most of the addons are security related. So from time to time I do notice a slow down which is fine for me. I will probably upgrade to version 4 after its first significant revision. As for the other browsers? I will never go back to E. Can't stand that POS. Hopefully I will never go Google for any app because I do not like their MO.

[YoDude9999]

Chrome held my interest for about 10 uses, then I dumped it. I think it's a "biased" browser that "steers" you rather than let you surf.

I'm sticking with Firefox for now. The latest revision is a lot less cluttered and very easy to get accustomed to. I don't need or want friggin' menu and tools bars all over the place and the latest Firefox has cleaned that up for me.

IE just doesn't count, but apparently, SOME sites REQUIRE its use and for that reason only that, do I still keep it around.

Yo-

[c303a]

Hate IE and I have Firefox but I am getting to dislike it very much. It keeps crashing and I don't like their box that tells me they have a problem. Just reconnect. I've tried safari and chrome and don't like either one. For now I will stick with FF and hope they get the bugs out of ver 4.0.

[Dandasarge]

I like Foxfire alot, It seems the more they upgrade the better it works for me. Probably the only program I can say has ever done that for me. I also use Chrome and IE to do different things. Also if you use Foxfire look into App: greasemonkey and http://userscripts.org/ it automates 1/2 of my web tasks. They also work in chrome. For IE I really like the http://www.ie7pro.com/ plug in. All of that is free I would never use anything that wasn't :)

[DrPop]

I go back and forth between the big three, to see if any of the latest updates help. IE9 and FF4 just can't keep up with Chrome...that is in my rigs, with a SoCal dsl connection. I know it has something to do with the way they cache. So, Chrome gets the most use these days because I can see the speed difference. Here's to hoping the other guys catch up around here.

[Fire$torm]

Chrome held my interest for about 10 uses, then I dumped it. I think it's a "biased" browser that "steers" you rather than let you surf.

I'm sticking with Firefox for now. The latest revision is a lot less cluttered and very easy to get accustomed to. I don't need or want friggin' menu and tools bars all over the place and the latest Firefox has cleaned that up for me.

IE just doesn't count, but apparently, SOME sites REQUIRE its use and for that reason only that, do I still keep it around.

Yo-

Sorry to HiJack this but it is related to the topic.... :P

If you want IE functionality in FF then try one of these,
IE Tab (FF 3.6+, 4+) (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ie-tab-plus-ff-36/) (The original addon)
IE Tab 2 (FF 3.6+ & FF 4+) (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ie-tab-2-ff-36/)
I still use the older version of IE Tab 2 since I'm still using FF-3 but it works great on IE only sites like netfix.

Other Addons to consider:
BetterPrivacy (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/)
ShowIP (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/showip/)
Flashblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/)
Mr Tech Toolkit (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mr-tech-toolkit/)
FlagFox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flagfox/)
Download Manager Tweak (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-manager-tweak/)
bug489729 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bug489729-disable-detach-and-t/)
All-In-One Sidebar (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/all-in-one-sidebar/)
Favicon Picker 3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/favicon-picker-3/)
ImageTweak (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imagetweak/)
QuickDrag (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quickdrag/)
FoxyTunes (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxytunes/)

And a nice script for GreaseMonkey called BlackBox (http://blog.nemik.net/2006/08/dont-leave-traces/) (Search Engine Anonymizer)

"We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming"

[Steve Bohlen]

At work I use:

IE 8 - not by choice. but have to for some internal sites...hate it.
Firefox - as much as possible

At home I use:

Chromium - for my minimum Linux installs; does almost everything I need from a browser
Firefox - Only installed on the one Windows XP partition I have; use it when Chromium doesn't work with a web page or when playing some flash games as it is faster than Chromium.

[Novatek]

Sorry to HiJack this but it is related to the topic.... :P

If you want IE functionality in FF then try one of these,
IE Tab (FF 3.6+, 4+) (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ie-tab-plus-ff-36/) (The original addon)
IE Tab 2 (FF 3.6+ & FF 4+) (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ie-tab-2-ff-36/)
I still use the older version of IE Tab 2 since I'm still using FF-3 but it works great on IE only sites like netfix.

Other Addons to consider:
BetterPrivacy (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/)
ShowIP (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/showip/)
Flashblock (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/)
Mr Tech Toolkit (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/mr-tech-toolkit/)
FlagFox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flagfox/)
Download Manager Tweak (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-manager-tweak/)
bug489729 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bug489729-disable-detach-and-t/)
All-In-One Sidebar (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/all-in-one-sidebar/)
Favicon Picker 3 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/favicon-picker-3/)
ImageTweak (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/imagetweak/)
QuickDrag (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/quickdrag/)
FoxyTunes (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxytunes/)

And a nice script for GreaseMonkey called BlackBox (http://blog.nemik.net/2006/08/dont-leave-traces/) (Search Engine Anonymizer)

"We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming"

I also use Firefox with some of those addons as well.

You may also want to try Fasterfox - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fasterfox-9148/
Noscript (recommended) - http://noscript.net/
FireFTP - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fireftp/

[-GER-]

I use Firefox for most things. It runs fast. Normally when I surf MSNBC for instance I just load all the articles I'm interested in in background tabs and read at leisure.

The only thing I use IE for is net purchases, not sure why but I don't trust FF quite as much for that.

[joker]

Im a FF guy all the way.

[BLUWOLF]

i have used ff since it came out. wont an will not use ie or any thing that goggle deals with do too goggles mo

[Mike029]

FF here as well. Tried Google, it's ok but won't switch.

[Beerdrinker]

Usually a FF guy...Has been for years...But all of sudden FF gives me errors, can´t show some regular visited pages properly and so on...This afternoon I can´t even log in to a danish HW page I read 3-4 times per week!!

Installed Opera 11.50...Oh, what a joy! Significant faster than even lastest FF 5.01..And I can read my pages again..

[c303a]

I have used FF for a long time but I am also getting a lot of errors and page shut downs. It is very annoying and I am going to revisit other browsers except Google. Opera may be the one I go with. I am running FF 6.03 Beta but I have had the same problem since 4.0.

[Fire$torm]

Ah. Looks like I'll be sticking with 3.6.18 for the time being. Sorry to hear 5.x is having issues. Rushing to market never turns out well.........

[zombie67]

Safari. Combined with mobileme, it keeps my bookmarks sync'd across all my macs. And that is a must-have for me. Yes, I tried xmarks with FF. Wow. Disaster. It worked fine at first. But a few weeks later, all my bookmarks got destroyed.

[Beerdrinker]

I have used FF for a long time but I am also getting a lot of errors and page shut downs. It is very annoying and I am going to revisit other browsers except Google. Opera may be the one I go with. I am running FF 6.03 Beta but I have had the same problem since 4.0.

I am very pleased with opera so far. It has some cool features. You can share pics, music or whatever to any Opera browser on any platform...I don´t use all those advanced features. But I think it´s cool.

[c303a]

While browsing for a new browser, I ran across the Mozilla Nightly project. Downloaded and WOW, it's firefox on steroids. It is a test item but the papers I read say it is the Firefox of the future. It has versions for Intel, Mac and Linux. 32 and 64 bit.

http://nightly.mozilla.org/http://nightly.mozilla.org/

Oh yes, it installs as a separate browser and will pick up everything from Firefox such as your shortcuts.

[DrPop]

Well, since F$ told us all the negatives about Chrome, and has been extolling the virtues of FireFox (any relation to Fire$torm? :P ), I have just switched over to FF latest edition. Seems to be pretty nice so far...

[Fire$torm]

Well, since F$ told us all the negatives about Chrome, and has been extolling the virtues of FireFox (any relation to Fire$torm? :P ), I have just switched over to FF latest edition. Seems to be pretty nice so far...

Nope, no relation. Because if there was I'd have some serious cash and a very serious crunching farm to show for it....... :P

Admittedly, like any software, FF is not perfect. But the primary reason the world has a *cough* better IE *cough* or Chrome browser is because FF raised the bar. And raised it very high.

[CudaStream]

SeaMonkey most of the time, occasionally FF.

[Ricky Moore]

I only use IE8 if I have to because of all the script errors boxes that keep popping up and the "IE can not display ...." problems no matter what my setting are on. Try using IE9 but found most Websites are not setup for it yet. I use Safari 5.1 mostly I like the Top Site page that shows the site you use the most. However at times it has a hard time opening pages, says it can't find the server or the computer for that site is not responding. I also use Chrome but not as much.

[trigggl]

This thread prompted me to try Chromium. I'm liking it, so far. I think I found one problem when trying to pay my Comcast bill. Other than that, no problems. I may switch permanently.

[Beerdrinker]

This thread prompted me to try Chromium. I'm liking it, so far. I think I found one problem when trying to pay my Comcast bill. Other than that, no problems. I may switch permanently.

I would not lay my head on the block for it....But I seem to remember that I have read somewhere that Chrome for Linux is way more stable and fast than it¨s windows "brother"...

[denim]

I was on FF for years, but it slowly had more and more issues and I think I was always so upgrade or modification nutty, I killed it myself. Have used Opera as my back up for the most part as the last 3 years I have mostly been a Chrome guy, but now it too has been having more and more issues, but I have not tried to tweak it or screw with it at all.

One I used to tool around on was Maxthon, but dont have it installed at the moment.

[Slicker]

As more and more sites move to HTML5 and CSS3, there will be more and more issues with browsers that don't support those standards. Microsoft can't decide what they want to do. First they think XML will save the world and now they don't even support XSLT 2.0. Rumor has it that IE will get a compliance bump as Microsoft moves away from ASP.NET and towards jQuery/HTML5/CSS3.

That all being said... for work I have to support FF, IE, and Safari so I use all three but I prefer FF. IE9 is better, but still lags in HTML/CSS compliance. FF also has add-ons such as Firebug and add blocker and I can't imaging living without either.

[Fire$torm]

.....FF also has add-ons such as Firebug and add blocker and I can't imaging living without either.

+++++1 So so true.

[Fire$torm]

FireFox 6 is officially released tomorrow but you can have it now!

Checkout ---> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2391067,00.asp

[denim]

Thanks FS, I will check it out.

[DrPop]

@ F$ - is this a "smart" install in Windows, i.e. if I have FF 5 installed, can I just download FF 6 and it will update automatically, or will it leave a bunch of "crap" in the registry and all, in which case I should uninstall FF 5 first?

[Fire$torm]

@ F$ - is this a "smart" install in Windows, i.e. if I have FF 5 installed, can I just download FF 6 and it will update automatically, or will it leave a bunch of "crap" in the registry and all, in which case I should uninstall FF 5 first?

Nope. No worries. The installer is fully aware of previous installs and will uninstall the old version, install itself, import previous settings/plugins/add-ons and do a version check and alert you to any incompatibilities.

Edit: BTW, the FF6 interface is radically different in terms of menu layout & buttons then in versions 3~5. It will take a little getting used to. I installed it on Odin. The install was smooth as silk. Many of my add-ons already had updates for FF6. Since I was on Odin via VNC I couldn't tell if the browsing experience as any faster (as claimed) but it definitely wasn't slower.

[STMahlberg]

I am a Firefox fan. Unfortunately, I have to use IE8 for work which I don't like but that's life.

On a side note... Microsoft is going to move away from ASP.NET??? =)) That's priceless. At work we just bought a new Energy Management Software package from a company (that doesn't know what they are doing) which cost us $650,000. The reason I use IE8 at work is because this software won't talk to IE9 or Firefox or Safari which we were told it would. This EMS package uses ASP.NET. ROFLMAO It just keeps getting better all the time.

Please God, all I need is 30 more months...

[Fire$torm]

I am a Firefox fan. Unfortunately, I have to use IE8 for work which I don't like but that's life.

On a side note... Microsoft is going to move away from ASP.NET??? =)) That's priceless. At work we just bought a new Energy Management Software package from a company (that doesn't know what they are doing) which cost us $650,000. The reason I use IE8 at work is because this software won't talk to IE9 or Firefox or Safari which we were told it would. This EMS package uses ASP.NET. ROFLMAO It just keeps getting better all the time.

Please God, all I need is 30 more months...

That is HUGELY priceless...... Almost 3/4 of a MILLION SMACKERS for software that uses a now abandoned framework. Wonder how many Win-Devs are jumping out of Windows, literally & figuratively?

[DrPop]

Will the Gov. ever figure out it needs to run Linux and program all its own stuff?:confused:

[c303a]

Will the Gov. ever figure out it needs to run Linux and program all its own stuff?:confused:

If they did that they wouldn't be able to hire all the overpriced "engineers" and would have to hire people who actually knew what they were doing. (Definition of engineer....professional procrastinator!):D:D:D

That of course would save the government money and you know they aren't going to do that.

[Fire$torm]

Will the Gov. ever figure out it needs to run Linux and program all its own stuff?:confused:

A few years ago there was a push at the state level to start using Open Office and other GPL software. IIRC After about a year, the Feds shut the whole thing down. After all, the campaign contribution dollars MUST FLOW. (nod to Frank Herbert).

[STMahlberg]

Will the Gov. ever figure out it needs to run Linux and program all its own stuff?:confused:


If they did that they wouldn't be able to hire all the overpriced "engineers" and would have to hire people who actually knew what they were doing. (Definition of engineer....professional procrastinator!):D:D:D

That of course would save the government money and you know they aren't going to do that.


A few years ago there was a push at the state level to start using Open Office and other GPL software. IIRC After about a year, the Feds shut the whole thing down. After all, the campaign contribution dollars MUST FLOW. (nod to Frank Herbert).

In my little corner of the Government that I work for that I like to call "Massive Dynamics", in years past we have had some intelligent and motivated employees that were allowed to develop applications that would help streamline and make some of the offices that they worked for more efficient. Once those employees moved on, there was no one to maintain the applications. It was decided that they would no longer allow that and that only outside companies would be allowed to create applications.

The other issue with individuals creating applications is that once you create something, you end up getting "married" to the thing which has nothing to do with keeping it running. Five years ago, I put together a database that allowed us to get off of the paper forms that we were using for audits in our department and it gave us the ability to search and create reports of site problems that we didn't have in the past. This database died a year ago because we have two individuals in our department that do not have an opposable thumb and refused to use it.

One major problem we had with the $650K POS that we purchased was that a particular Director that was in charge of this allowed the Software Company to write their own specifications. During the development meetings, which I attended, I brought up problems with this system that needed to be fixed or changed. I was told in so many words to STFU and mind my own business. Because of these issues, this department has wasted a ton of tax payers money and we didn't get a software package that comes anywhere close to what lower level management and others like myself who are analysis' wanted or needed to do our jobs.

I'll stop with that since I'm starting to get pissed off about the whole thing again. ~X(

[Fire$torm]

Looks like FireFox devs are trying to put themselves out of work.

This might be old news to some but honestly, who has the time to keep up? :P

Firefox 6: Four Reasons Not to Upgrade (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/238381/firefox_6_four_reasons_not_to_upgrade.html)

Firefox Rapid Release: 5 Key Points (http://www.pcworld.com/article/231222/firefox_rapid_release_5_key_points.html#tk.mod_rel )

Firefox Strategy Is a Recipe for Failure (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/230868/firefox_strategy_is_a_recipe_for_failure.html#tk.m od_rel)

Mozilla: An Enterprise Firefox Strategy Is in the Works (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/231363/mozilla_an_enterprise_firefox_strategy_is_in_the_w orks.html#tk.mod_rel)

[STMahlberg]

Looks like FireFox devs are trying to put themselves out of work.

This might be old news to some but honestly, who has the time to keep up? :P

Firefox 6: Four Reasons Not to Upgrade (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/238381/firefox_6_four_reasons_not_to_upgrade.html)

Firefox Rapid Release: 5 Key Points (http://www.pcworld.com/article/231222/firefox_rapid_release_5_key_points.html#tk.mod_rel )

Firefox Strategy Is a Recipe for Failure (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/230868/firefox_strategy_is_a_recipe_for_failure.html#tk.m od_rel)

Mozilla: An Enterprise Firefox Strategy Is in the Works (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/231363/mozilla_an_enterprise_firefox_strategy_is_in_the_w orks.html#tk.mod_rel)

I'm still using Firefox 5. I don't upgrade to their newest stuff since I use RoboForm for all of my passwords and typically, RoboForm doesn't come up with an update to work with them for a couple months.

[Beerdrinker]

I have regret that I installed FF 6.0...3-4 times per day it becomes sluggish, don´t respond and so on.....

[c303a]

I have uninstalled FF and moved over to chrome. I started getting a lot of crashes with FF. I couldn't stay on a web site without having to reload or having FF tell me how sorry they were for losing the site. Had enough.

[denim]

I have yet to install the new FF. Still using Opera for now, but it does pull some memory.

[STMahlberg]

I think I'm going to ditch FF and move to IE. Many of the websites I have to use seem to cater to IE.

[Fire$torm]

I think I'm going to ditch FF and move to IE. Many of the websites I have to use seem to cater to IE.

I'm staying with FF but I will probably not update my desktop (Still using 3.x). If you want to use FF with those websites then get the IE Tab plugin. (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=ie+tab+2&cat=all) I use version 2 but the IE Tab + (not to be confused with IE Tab Plus) is the open source version. All versions can be setup to switch on when you visit your "IE" sites. Works great for my XP box when I need to use Windows Update.

[STMahlberg]

I'm staying with FF but I will probably not update my desktop (Still using 3.x). If you want to use FF with those websites then get the IE Tab plugin. (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=ie+tab+2&cat=all) I use version 2 but the IE Tab + (not to be confused with IE Tab Plus) is the open source version. All versions can be setup to switch on when you visit your "IE" sites. Works great for my XP box when I need to use Windows Update.

Very cool! I will do that. Thank you Fire$torm. :)

[STMahlberg]

I'm staying with FF but I will probably not update my desktop (Still using 3.x). If you want to use FF with those websites then get the IE Tab plugin. (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=ie+tab+2&cat=all) I use version 2 but the IE Tab + (not to be confused with IE Tab Plus) is the open source version. All versions can be setup to switch on when you visit your "IE" sites. Works great for my XP box when I need to use Windows Update.


Very cool! I will do that. Thank you Fire$torm. :)

I tried it out and it works for the most part; however, I logon to the Nevada Department of Taxation and it says, "Nice try but we know that you aren't really using IE; you're still using FF and trying to disguise it as IE... fat chance and we're not falling for it!" or something like that. :D

[Fire$torm]

I tried it out and it works for the most part; however, I logon to the Nevada Department of Taxation and it says, "Nice try but we know that you aren't really using IE; you're still using FF and trying to disguise it as IE... fat chance and we're not falling for it!" or something like that. :D

They must have coded their site to look/call for something that only IE has that exists outside of the IE engine. Which btw is how IE tab works, using the IE engine and wrapping it in a FF window.

They MUST be getting paid by M$ to do that since only a moron or greedy idiot would code a website only for IE, The buggiest, least secure browser on the planet. Unless of course someone higher up is getting the kickback and just mandating the use of IE only........

[Beerdrinker]

I just installed Safari just for a change...And I am suprised...The windows version feels quite snappy, and it does not crash like FF 6.0 - gonna stick with it for a while...:D

[STMahlberg]

They must have coded their site to look/call for something that only IE has that exists outside of the IE engine. Which btw is how IE tab works, using the IE engine and wrapping it in a FF window.

They MUST be getting paid by M$ to do that since only a moron or greedy idiot would code a website only for IE, The buggiest, least secure browser on the planet. Unless of course someone higher up is getting the kickback and just mandating the use of IE only........

My best friend has been saying for quite a while now that everything is a conspiracy... I'm starting to agree. I just want to know when I'm going to get my cut?

[Fire$torm]

My best friend has been saying for quite a while now that everything is a conspiracy... I'm starting to agree. I just want to know when I'm going to get my cut?

:))


I just installed Safari just for a change...And I am suprised...The windows version feels quite snappy, and it does not crash like FF 6.0 - gonna stick with it for a while...:D

OK. If I wasn't such an Apple Hater I would probably give it a try. Mozilla just released a security update for FF 3.6 so I think I will stick with it for the time being.

[shralper]

I started using google chrome about 6 months ago and haven't looked back. I love it.

[Fire$torm]

For those of you who are looking for a way to possibly speed up FireFox then check out the Pale Moon Project (Link (http://www.palemoon.org/)). And be sure to look over the FAQ.

This is for Windows only.

[Beerdrinker]

The latest Opera 11.52 looks nice. I quit Safari again, because it´s to much Apple for me...It bet it work perfect on a Mac computer - but on a Win pc it´s not "all-that"..

Opera looks alot like FF (or is it the other way round) but it feels quite fast. No lockups so far.

[DrPop]

I'm rocking the latest FF these days, and it's fast. They must have fixed something, because no lockups in a while, and I think it's acting faster than IE9 (which in my opinion is by far the best I've seen from MS).
Chrome was blazing fast back when I used it, but I uninstalled it when F$ reported about their tracking stuff. Just out of principle - that just isn't right. I can understand getting all the data you can off someone when they come to your site (google.com, etc), I mean the person is asking for it by visiting your site in a way. But to track them when they leave your site...that I just can't agree with. A real pity, because at least a few months ago, Chrome was really fast.

[Fire$torm]

@DrPop: Good to hear that. Don't know what they fixed.

I finally tried Pale Moon. Now I can honestly say that it blows the doors off of Mozilla's standard issue. Even with all of my add-ons ;)

[DrPop]

Is that some kind of souped up version of FF or something new? (Pale Moon).
Funny my uncle just emailed me today and asked if I'd heard anything about Opera, because he quit Chrome due to the issues, and found Opera. I've never used it...maybe I should?

[Fire$torm]

Is that some kind of souped up version of FF or something new? (Pale Moon).
Funny my uncle just emailed me today and asked if I'd heard anything about Opera, because he quit Chrome due to the issues, and found Opera. I've never used it...maybe I should?

Pale Moon is a highly optimized version (Opti-App :) ) of FireFox for Windows only.

[N1gh7m4r3]

I'm willing to give the pale moon a few days to see if I like it, what extensions don't you get if yu run the 64 bit version, anyone know off the top of their heads?

[Fire$torm]

I'm willing to give the pale moon a few days to see if I like it, what extensions don't you get if yu run the 64 bit version, anyone know off the top of their heads?

It has the same defaults as standard FF. Pale Moon does not have as many items in its "Customize Toolbar" as FF but all of my FF add-ons work including Better Privacy, All-In-One Sidebar, FlagFox, ShowIP, Grease Monkey, AdBlock Plus, Download Manager Tweak, BeefTaco & NASA Night Launch Theme.

[DrPop]

I just downloaded Opera to try it out because you guys were raving about it. WOW! This thing is fast. It is surely limited by my pitiful 6Mbits DSL connection...not the computer in any way!
Wonder why it's not more popular?:confused:

[Beerdrinker]

I just downloaded Opera to try it out because you guys were raving about it. WOW! This thing is fast. It is surely limited by my pitiful 6Mbits DSL connection...not the computer in any way!
Wonder why it's not more popular?:confused:

Have you ever heard about the Peacekeeper Browser Bench??

http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

Opera scored more than double of what FF 7.01 did!!!

[DrPop]

...

Opera scored more than double of what FF 7.01 did!!!

Dude! No wonder I am liking this thing. :D It is my browser of choice after using it half a day here. Thanks for turning me on to this one! :cool:

[Beerdrinker]

I just ran some test on the 4 big browsers

574

I am surpriced that Chrome got overrun by Opera 11.52. I think that I will be migrating to Opera very soon. It is as fast as Chrome, but does not track ones footsteps on the web. It has extensions, it can manage and syncronize your bookmarks through Opera Unite...

What´s not to like???


EDIT: Please note that I ran these tests while crunching on my Aticard. Did not wanna suspend one minute of crunching....LOL

[Fire$torm]

For the record I installed Opera two days ago but not sure if I like the layout. For Pale Moon I've recently noticed strange, as in not so good, behavior. Every now and then while I'm on the forum, someone's avatar will appear in the middle of the page footer. And apparently Pale Moon hates some websites. They take forever to load but I think it is because those sites are optimized for IE. Yuck! So I have switched back to FF. Need to check into Opera's security features/plug-ins. If it can match FF I may start using it.

[c303a]

I tried Opera as well and I also did not like the layout. I currently have Palemoon and Firefox installed. I just upgraded to FF 8.0 and it seems to be working very well. I had trouble with crashes on previous versions of FF but 8.0 seems very stable so far.

[Beerdrinker]

I got stuck in a discussion on a Danish forum yesterday...The subject where browsers of course.....Anyway, one thing lead to another and while I surfed around Wikipedia I found this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg


I just figured I would post it, as I find it very informative and kinda interesting...

[DrPop]

I've been using the latest version of PaleMoon x64 as suggested by F$, and have to say it is quite speedy! Hasn't given me any issues. I liked Opera, but it had some slight issues with placing text and things in some forum software that in the end just wasn't worth it to me.

[Fire$torm]

I too gave up on Opera. Just didn't like the interface and the way it did some things. I did have a problem with PaleMoon being incompatible with one or two FF extensions. I will try it again after their next major update.

[Philadelphia]

I'd never use Chrome again, I've had a couple of issues where virus's use chrome.

Never again.

[Beerdrinker]

Maybe we should do a poll???

I can´t keep up with the answers anymore....:p

[Fire$torm]

Maybe we should do a poll???

I can´t keep up with the answers anymore....:p

Hahahaha, Go for it!

[GalaxyIce]

I got stuck in a discussion on a Danish forum yesterday...The subject where browsers of course.....Anyway, one thing lead to another and while I surfed around Wikipedia I found this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Timeline_of_web_browsers.svg


I just figured I would post it, as I find it very informative and kinda interesting...

I think you made a mistake. This is a map of the London Underground ;))

I've just started using Google Chrome. I use gmail a lot and was told Chrome was more compatible than with other browsers. I'm not sure if this is true, but I'm trying it out.

[DrPop]

Anyone tried this one out yet? WaterFox (http://waterfoxproj.sourceforge.net/downloads/) A 64 bit optimized version of FireFox. I wonder if it's faster than Pale Moon?

[Fire$torm]

Anyone tried this one out yet? WaterFox (http://waterfoxproj.sourceforge.net/downloads/) A 64 bit optimized version of FireFox. I wonder if it's faster than Pale Moon?

Nope. That is the first mention of it I have seen. I might give it a look see. Thx for the link.

[Beerdrinker]

Anyone tried this one out yet? WaterFox (http://waterfoxproj.sourceforge.net/downloads/) A 64 bit optimized version of FireFox. I wonder if it's faster than Pale Moon?


I gave it a shot...My computer froze almost instantly. This is Win 7 HP x64 SP1. Could not even run the peacekeeper browser bench.

[DrPop]

I gave it a shot...My computer froze almost instantly. This is Win 7 HP x64 SP1. Could not even run the peacekeeper browser bench.

Wow, that's not good. Sorry about that. I was reading an article where the guys that hack FireFox and turn it into WaterFox claim it's the fastest 64 bit variant of the browser out there. Now I'm curious why it crashed (must be som optimization they screwed with!) and I'll have to give it a try. :D ;)

[Beerdrinker]

Wow, that's not good. Sorry about that. I was reading an article where the guys that hack FireFox and turn it into WaterFox claim it's the fastest 64 bit variant of the browser out there. Now I'm curious why it crashed (must be som optimization they screwed with!) and I'll have to give it a try. :D ;)

Yeah, that figures...."I can mess something up??"...." Let´s give it a try!!!!" :p

Anyway, I am back on FF 9.01....It´s running smooth...:cool:

[DrPop]

Hmmm...hey Beer - do you have all the updates from Win7 and did you download and install that "Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x64)" they say you need at the top of the page? I downloaded it, but when I went to install it, found it was already installed on my computer. So, I just downloaded and installed with WaterFox. I am typing on it right now.

It IS very FAST. As fast as my Internet connection, that is for sure. It doesn't seem to matter how many tabs I have open or how many sites I click on at the same time - it is not waiting on my computer at all; my Internet connection is definitely the bottleneck for sure.

EDIT: I see why it is fast -- the browser is optimized for SSE, SSE2, and X64. They hint in future they will optimize for SSE3 and 4.1 once more of their downloads are from users with CPUs capable of those instruction sets. They basically recompile the FireFox code after every release with those flags checked. So, if you are running say an Intel Core / Core2 or AMD Athlon 64 OR NEWER CPU, then you will see some awesome performance here. Glad we stumbled across this one!

[zombie67]

I gave it a shot...My computer froze almost instantly. This is Win 7 HP x64 SP1. Could not even run the peacekeeper browser bench.

At the top of the d/p page it says, "You MUST have Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x64) installed!" Do you?

[Beerdrinker]

727''


I believe so....


EDIT: WIn 7 HP fully updated.

[Fire$torm]

I am starting to dislike Mozilla!

Updated to FF 12 to fix the problem with the forum not displaying correctly. Then I started getting intermittent screen flicker! I thought it was my 5830 going bad. after cleaning, fixing a problem I discovered and fabbing an air filter for the intake fans, the problem persisted. TG I backed up my old install b4 upgrading to 12. Renamed the FF folders for data and user profiles, then restored the backup. Viola! Problem fixed.

Mozilla, straighten out your act before the dinosaurs decide its time for you to join them......!

[Mike029]

I am starting to dislike Mozilla!

Updated to FF 12 to fix the problem with the forum not displaying correctly. Then I started getting intermittent screen flicker! I thought it was my 5830 going bad. after cleaning, fixing a problem I discovered and fabbing an air filter for the intake fans, the problem persisted. TG I backed up my old install b4 upgrading to 12. Renamed the FF folders for data and user profiles, then restored the backup. Viola! Problem fixed.

Mozilla, straighten out your act before the dinosaurs decide its time for you to join them......!

I have to agree. I have been using google since FF 8 or 9. I may even considers Explorer at this point. :-??:((~X(

[DrPop]

Have you tried Waterfox recently? Seems pretty fast on Win7 X64...just a thought?:confused: I guess I'm kinda old school, though in some ways because I just end up using what works - I have waterfox and IE9 on my rigs these days.

[Fire$torm]

Have you tried Waterfox recently? Seems pretty fast on Win7 X64...just a thought?:confused: I guess I'm kinda old school, though in some ways because I just end up using what works - I have waterfox and IE9 on my rigs these days.

I have it but I need to upgrade to the latest release. If it works better the 3.6.28 then it will be my goto browser.

[zombie67]

I use chrome and safari on my macs. I use FF only for ikariam, and the CR converter.

[Maxwell]

I am starting to dislike Mozilla!

Updated to FF 12 to fix the problem with the forum not displaying correctly. Then I started getting intermittent screen flicker! I thought it was my 5830 going bad. after cleaning, fixing a problem I discovered and fabbing an air filter for the intake fans, the problem persisted. TG I backed up my old install b4 upgrading to 12. Renamed the FF folders for data and user profiles, then restored the backup. Viola! Problem fixed.

Mozilla, straighten out your act before the dinosaurs decide its time for you to join them......!
FF12 did even worse on me - it would actually BSOD my system any time I tried to use it while the cards were crunching.

[Beerdrinker]

Sorry for bringing up this old post...I just recently found the Comodo IceDragon browser..

Have any of you tried that?

http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/icedragon-browser.php

I have installed it. But it seems it not as fast as the regular FF

[Fire$torm]

I haven't tried it but from the their description I'd say it's slower because of the integrated malware scanner. Also the default DNS server used by IceDragon might have something to do with it to.

[c303a]

I tried it and it seemed slower than Firefox. Not sure why but it also would not pick up any of my info from FF like favorites etc. Gave up on it and uninstalled it.

[E-30]

tryed it but i am useing the new fire fox 64 bit called nightly they do updates on it allost every day and it been good so far killed firefox becue i am running win 7 64bit

[Slicker]

So, FF 64 vs waterfox which is only x64, which is better? I hate IE 11 in Win 8.1 and have been using chrome. The question is whether FF or Waterfox would be better than chrome.

[E-30]

I use nightly it's the same as waterfox but it's the beta of it and it's is fast as hell on my quad core