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rgathright
05-23-11, 08:10 AM
I am looking for a 6.5" long ( or less) CUDA graphics card that I can place in my computer.

Memory banks are blocking the first PCI-e x16 slot in the ASUS KGPE-D16 motherboard.

Thanks for any recommendations! Links would be very helpful!:D

A sample card that I can test with would be great. I promise to send it back or even pay you for it if it works. This is a great chance to get some $$ to trade up! :-bd

Dandasarge
05-23-11, 12:35 PM
I'm not 100% on this but finding a card less then 6.5" with any power will be imposable as most heat sinks are that big. If its on a bench I would suggest a riser card.

http://cgi.ebay.com/PCI-E-164Pin-Slot-PCI-Express-16x-Protector-Riser-Card-/170609116901?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b91886e5

GT 440
GT 240

Is your best bet, my chart says the 440 is a DP

http://www.zotacusa.com/products/graphics-cards/geforce-400-series/geforce-gt-440#

http://www.zotacusa.com/products/graphics-cards/geforce-200-series/geforce-gt-240#

Maxwell
05-23-11, 02:29 PM
What are you trying to do? You're pushing the limits of card design if you need something that short...

I ask for two reasons. 1. You can certainly stick a good card in that second slot and run it. I've run cards from the second slot many a time. 2. As long as you find a good flat card, it should still fit in the first slot - my online "eyeball" test tells me the card should fit in right under the memory slots...

rgathright
05-23-11, 02:45 PM
First, thanks Dan & Max.

The white slot closest to the processor can function as a PCI-e x16 slot and want to use it is possible to get a slim NVIDIA CUDA card crunching.

The problem is that memory, when installed, is blocking the rear of any card you install so 6.5" is my max for this poor slot. :-?
http://www.overclock.net/attachments/amd-motherboards/200524d1300356026-asus-kgpe-d16-ikvm-amd-5690-asus-kgpe-d16.jpg

Maxwell
05-23-11, 03:00 PM
Heh... I was just looking at the Blue PCIe slots... :o

Pretty sure something like this 430 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162067) would work, as would this 220 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500129).

Those are the shortest I can find...

rgathright
05-23-11, 03:14 PM
Heh... I was just looking at the Blue PCIe slots... :o


The white slots work as PCI-e x16 and I am crunching with a card in one right now on the ASUS KGPE-D16.

Mostly just trying to see how much firepower I can cram into this box. :-B

So, should I buy the Galaxy 43GGS8HX3SPZ GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162067)?

Or...

Can someone find something with a little more power? This is all for our PrimeGrid challenge next month!

THANKS!

Maxwell
05-23-11, 03:22 PM
What else are you going to have in that box? Because my first reaction is to spend your money on cards with better return and stick them in the PCIe slots that aren't blocked.

rgathright
05-23-11, 03:32 PM
Real close to getting this one. Low 1 slot profile should fit and it has 1024Mb.

EVGA 01G-P3-1441-KR GeForce GT 440 1024MB (Fermi) DUAL DVI PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130612&cm_re=nvidia_gt_440-_-14-130-612-_-Product)

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/14-130-612-Z03?$S300W$

Does GeForce GT 440 make it better than GeForce GT 430?:confused:

rgathright
05-23-11, 03:35 PM
What else are you going to have in that box? Because my first reaction is to spend your money on cards with better return and stick them in the PCIe slots that aren't blocked.

True. I have two GeForce GTX 550Ti's in it right now that each take up 2 slots. Will replace them with GTX 590's. Before I spend that kind of cash, I wanted to see if I can make three cards work at once.

Maxwell
05-23-11, 03:45 PM
Does GeForce GT 440 make it better than GeForce GT 430?:confused:
Are you a GPU overclocker? Because if you are, that may influence the answer...

Both cards have 96 stream processors - the key difference is the clock speed. The 440 is clocked much higher. I'd bet you could probably clock the 430 up to 440 or even beyond. However, I'm not sure how well you could cool those cards, so with those other cards you have, you might be better off with the 440.

Someone else weigh in here - I'm at the limit of my (and I use this term loosely) "knowledge." :p

DrPop
05-23-11, 04:10 PM
I just have to add this - while I am all for "maxing out" boxes...

If you can put 2 GTX 590's in two "un blocked" slots, then just put your money there. Can't do more than 4 GPUs on a Windows OS anyway (at least not without a lot of tricks), and a single 590 counts as 2 GPUs. So 2 GTX 590's and there's your limit.

So, any money spent on "other" cards, no matter how big or small, is in the end, money somewhat "wasted" perhaps.
I hope that view point helps a little...

rgathright
05-23-11, 04:15 PM
Someone else weigh in here - I'm at the limit of my (and I use this term loosely) "knowledge." :p
We both are... I feel like this guy right now
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-z03Gi-6cJBw/TWaI5_PHQ8I/AAAAAAAAAOM/GPgocjS0PdM/s1600/iq-test-smart-intelligent-demotivational-poster-1237051702.jpg

Dandasarge
05-23-11, 04:18 PM
are those backwards PCI-E slots on the bottom of that motherboard?

Yes the 430 and 440 use the same GPU chip, 430's may have flaws that 440's do not. Other then that they are 100% made the same.

rgathright
05-23-11, 04:28 PM
are those backwards PCI-E slots on the bottom of that motherboard?

Yes the 430 and 440 use the same GPU chip, 430's may have flaws that 440's do not. Other then that they are 100% made the same.

#1 That is a PIKE slot used to activate the SAS ports on the ASUS KGPE-D16 motherboard.

#2 Ok, makes sense, 440 sounds like like the better option for stability & speed.

Dandasarge
05-23-11, 04:32 PM
I just have to add this - while I am all for "maxing out" boxes...

If you can put 2 GTX 590's in two "un blocked" slots, then just put your money there. Can't do more than 4 GPUs on a Windows OS anyway (at least not without a lot of tricks), and a single 590 counts as 2 GPUs. So 2 GTX 590's and there's your limit.

So, any money spent on "other" cards, no matter how big or small, is in the end, money somewhat "wasted" perhaps.
I hope that view point helps a little...

Window's 7 64 will run 8 Nvidia GPU's and that is only limited by the driver itself and not by Window's. Sadly they have released they have no intent on changing that :(.

I know the computer these are going into is 2003 and have no idea how it will work in the end.

The amount of credit per 440 will only be around 50k unless you can find an "OEM" which you can't because if they were for sale someplace I would already own a couple. That would be why I would call it not worth it.

rgathright
05-23-11, 05:10 PM
The amount of credit per 440 will only be around 50k unless you can find an "OEM" ...That would be why I would call it not worth it.

Just had to repost this... a fellow SETI.USA credit hog saying that 50K is not worth it! #:-s

I will likely get the card and move it around machines as I upgrade.

Dandasarge
05-23-11, 05:29 PM
Just had to repost this... a fellow SETI.USA credit hog saying that 50K is not worth it! #:-s

I will likely get the card and move it around machines as I upgrade.

Yes I would and this is why :) the cheepist 440 is going to run you 70 bucks. that's more way outside my Credit to Dollar scale. an 8800 will perform the same for 30 bucks. It just wont fit :(. So yes never think I don't want you to crunch as much as you can in your computer.

joker
05-23-11, 05:55 PM
Just build a new computer with another 3 PCI-e x16 slots in it! :cool:

rgathright
05-23-11, 07:14 PM
Just build a new computer with another 3 PCI-e x16 slots in it! :cool:
It has them, just want to see them all work and not spend $$$ to find out. :cool:

Yall know I'm the first too try this on this mobo. Hope these efforts all pay off in Q4 2011 with the arrival of new Bulldozer AMD's that will yield 32 cores in this single motherboard!