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spingadus
06-08-11, 03:03 AM
I had a moment of weakness and I did it.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130630&cm_re=evga_590-_-14-130-630-_-Product

This boinc thing is insidious! ...and I like it!

/sping

Fire$torm
06-08-11, 03:21 AM
I had a moment of weakness and I did it.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130630&cm_re=evga_590-_-14-130-630-_-Product

This boinc thing is insidious! ...and I like it!

/sping

Utterly Insane........ which makes you my new hero :-bd

spingadus
06-08-11, 03:33 AM
:)

I"m guessing I'll get a "small" boost in credit productivity when I replace my aging gtx260(216). :P

Maxwell
06-08-11, 03:48 AM
:)

I"m guessing I'll get a "small" boost in credit productivity when I replace my aging gtx260(216). :P
Very small... ;)

Of course, if you want help becoming a Mega Milestone chaser, I'm more than happy to help you out in ways to use that card...

spingadus
06-08-11, 04:30 AM
Ah, any help is welcome.

My initial plan had been to use my cpus for the projects that seem interesting to me and use my gpu for credit whoring. Luckily enough, I do have an interest in PG, so my gpu was used for both interest and credit. But...

I noticed this thing called mega milestones, and so, I just joined every project that I could.

I'm currently running both cpu and gpu on everything that comes my way. I intend on building a farm, but that will be slow in coming and may not really get going until after summer.

rgathright
06-08-11, 08:09 AM
Ah, any help is welcome.

My initial plan had been to use my cpus for the projects that seem interesting to me and use my gpu for credit whoring. Luckily enough, I do have an interest in PG, so my gpu was used for both interest and credit. But...


You want to help us at PrimeGrid? Oh you are my new hero!

I have been building up my systems for the June 20th PG challenge. Hope to see you there!

http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/challenge.php

Mike029
06-08-11, 09:16 AM
Ah, any help is welcome.

My initial plan had been to use my cpus for the projects that seem interesting to me and use my gpu for credit whoring. Luckily enough, I do have an interest in PG, so my gpu was used for both interest and credit. But...

I noticed this thing called mega milestones, and so, I just joined every project that I could.

I'm currently running both cpu and gpu on everything that comes my way. I intend on building a farm, but that will be slow in coming and may not really get going until after summer.

You Da Man!!!^:)^^:)^^:)^^:)^^:)^@-)@-)8->8->8->=D>=D>=D>

Maxwell
06-08-11, 11:00 AM
Ah, any help is welcome.

My initial plan had been to use my cpus for the projects that seem interesting to me and use my gpu for credit whoring. Luckily enough, I do have an interest in PG, so my gpu was used for both interest and credit. But...

I noticed this thing called mega milestones, and so, I just joined every project that I could.

I'm currently running both cpu and gpu on everything that comes my way. I intend on building a farm, but that will be slow in coming and may not really get going until after summer.
You have me so excited now...

Maxwell's intro to MM chasing: Get on the list.
What do I mean by that? Well, in order to keep the size of the tables down, there is a set minimum number of milestones you need to attain in order to show up on the list. Once you reach that minimum, your rank will show up on the "Mega Milestone" table on your stats page (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=64b91f65c1713ef798e20aa4c5b4956d) on Free-DC. My first goal when I was starting was just to get on the list.

You have four 250k projects, and the minimum there to make the list is 4. Yay! Congrats! You're close on several others, too.

Strategies:
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).
- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.
- WUProp: Always run this. Free credits.

I'll stop talking now. If you want more MM chaser strategery, let me know. And if you want to truly be a badass, add the suffix "[MM]" to your name on every project (brackets included, quotes are not). That will get you to show up on this (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=subteamusers&team=SETI.USA&subteam=MM) stats page. ;)

Dandasarge
06-08-11, 11:21 AM
You have me so excited now...

Maxwell's intro to MM chasing: Get on the list.
What do I mean by that? Well, in order to keep the size of the tables down, there is a set minimum number of milestones you need to attain in order to show up on the list. Once you reach that minimum, your rank will show up on the "Mega Milestone" table on your stats page (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=64b91f65c1713ef798e20aa4c5b4956d) on Free-DC. My first goal when I was starting was just to get on the list.

You have four 250k projects, and the minimum there to make the list is 4. Yay! Congrats! You're close on several others, too.

Strategies:
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).
- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.
- WUProp: Always run this. Free credits.

I'll stop talking now. If you want more MM chaser strategery, let me know. And if you want to truly be a badass, add the suffix "[MM]" to your name on every project (brackets included, quotes are not). That will get you to show up on this (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=subteamusers&team=SETI.USA&subteam=MM) stats page. ;)

Max why not Pirates? How could you skip it?

http://pirates.spy-hill.net/ work is rare and sporadic that if your not connected to it you might miss the whole set before its posted to the board. As a MM I would think that would be on top because the only way to get an MM in it is to crunch it for Years. Its also a low resource credit.

Crazybob's Son
06-08-11, 11:23 AM
I noticed this thing called mega milestones, and so, I just joined every project that I could.

I'm currently running both cpu and gpu on everything that comes my way. I intend on building a farm, but that will be slow in coming and may not really get going until after summer.

You definitely don't want to run a ton of projects all at once. BOINC seems to run better when focusing on one or two particular projects at a time (for CPU). You'll also want to make sure you're attached to FreeHAL and WuProp as those are not cpu-intensive, run alongside other projects, and are basically free credits.

Maxwell
06-08-11, 11:35 AM
Max why not Pirates? How could you skip it?

http://pirates.spy-hill.net/ work is rare and sporadic that if your not connected to it you might miss the whole set before its posted to the board. As a MM I would think that would be on top because the only way to get an MM in it is to crunch it for Years. Its also a low resource credit.
You're right. Pirates falls off my radar some times since I've been crunching it for 2 years and still only have 7k. But yes - always be attached to pirates. It never hurts...

And I agree with CBS. ;)

Crazybob
06-08-11, 02:18 PM
That is one sweet card! Go for the gold!:)

spingadus
06-08-11, 08:46 PM
You want to help us at PrimeGrid? Oh you are my new hero!

I have been building up my systems for the June 20th PG challenge. Hope to see you there!

http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/challenge.php

Sorry for the late response, busy day.

Yes! I finally decided to join a team because I didn't just want to build credits, I wanted direction and to be part of something. I'll help in any way I can.

But, I"m going on a geology field trip for a couple of weeks during that time. I don't think I could leave my machines on during that time without supervision. I could have someone I know do it for me though. Is it as simple as having my machines setup to crunch PG at that date? Or do I need to be around?

spingadus
06-08-11, 08:51 PM
You have me so excited now...

Maxwell's intro to MM chasing: Get on the list.
What do I mean by that? Well, in order to keep the size of the tables down, there is a set minimum number of milestones you need to attain in order to show up on the list. Once you reach that minimum, your rank will show up on the "Mega Milestone" table on your stats page (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=64b91f65c1713ef798e20aa4c5b4956d) on Free-DC. My first goal when I was starting was just to get on the list.

You have four 250k projects, and the minimum there to make the list is 4. Yay! Congrats! You're close on several others, too.

Strategies:
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).
- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.
- WUProp: Always run this. Free credits.

I'll stop talking now. If you want more MM chaser strategery, let me know. And if you want to truly be a badass, add the suffix "[MM]" to your name on every project (brackets included, quotes are not). That will get you to show up on this (http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=subteamusers&team=SETI.USA&subteam=MM) stats page. ;)

Wow, nice info. There should be a strategy section of the forum for MM with this as a sticky. I'm going to make the changes you mentioned.

Some concerns:

1) Is there a way to change my name all at once or do I need to actually go to each project one by one.
2) I use boincstats currently to manage my projects. Is Free-DC basically the same thing? and do I need to use that instead?
3) Is there a list of which projects I should be running first, once I slim down my active project list? Perhaps some of the projects are at the end of their lifecycle and I should get on those first?

Anyways, great info.

/sping

joker
06-08-11, 09:11 PM
Are you corrupting our youth again Max!?! :p;)

zombie67
06-08-11, 09:15 PM
1) Is there a way to change my name all at once or do I need to actually go to each project one by one.

They have to be changed individually at each project. But you have it pretty easy compare to some of us... ;)

http://stats.free-dc.org/cpidtagb.php?cpid=0a7b8378436fdcaef549d87e35f26480&theme=2&cols=3


2) I use boincstats currently to manage my projects. Is Free-DC basically the same thing? and do I need to use that instead?

What do you mean exactly? You use BOINCstats to monitor your credits? Or you use BAM to manage projects? Free-DC is a stats site (the best!), but it does not have an account manager. So I use BAM for managing projects, and Free-DC for monitoring stats.

spingadus
06-08-11, 09:24 PM
They have to be changed individually at each project. But you have it pretty easy compare to some of us... ;)

So true :)



What do you mean exactly? You use BOINCstats to monitor your credits? Or you use BAM to manage projects? Free-DC is a stats site (the best!), but it does not have an account manager. So I use BAM for managing projects, and Free-DC for monitoring stats.

Yes, that's what I meant :) BAM! and you answered my question, thanks.

spingadus
06-08-11, 09:32 PM
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).

Changed... except for PG. I like the idea of getting badges, so I want to keep running the LLR stuff. Sharing the gpu with projects other than PG will lessen my credit output for the team, but I guess there is no way around that.


- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.

Hmm, apparently FreeHAL only has '1 WU/core' settings for home/work/school. My main box is using the 'default' preference for all my projects. Will need to change that.

Fire$torm
06-08-11, 10:43 PM
Sorry for the late response, busy day.

Yes! I finally decided to join a team because I didn't just want to build credits, I wanted direction and to be part of something. I'll help in any way I can.

But, I"m going on a geology field trip for a couple of weeks during that time. I don't think I could leave my machines on during that time without supervision. I could have someone I know do it for me though. Is it as simple as having my machines setup to crunch PG at that date? Or do I need to be around?

There are several ways to administrate your systems.
BAM: (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BAM!) BOINC Account Manager (BAM) is a fairly useful method of managing one or more systems running BOINC. There is no direct connection to a users computer with BAM. Everything is done via the BAM website. For me the two biggest issues using BAM are

*The more systems you need to manage with BAM the more convoluted it becomes since to fully manage even one system requires moving between several web pages.

*Any changes made on the website are not immediately realized on the managed system(s) until the next time it/they are scheduled to contact the BAM website.

BOINC Manager(s): (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Account_managers) All BOINC account manager apps use the RPC network protocol for communicating with the BOINC Daemon a.k.a. Boinc.exe. The major concern is that RPC is a very insecure protocol which makes any system connected to the internet with it vulnerable. There are methods to make it more secure like "wrapping" the RPC connection in a VPN Tunnel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vpn) or some other Tunneling Protocol. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnelling_protocol)

VNC: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vnc) Virtual Network Connection (VNC) is an established method for controlling a PC remotely. There are many different versions available. Some have a free license for use and others are commercial and require payment for use. Unfortunately VNC shares the same vulnerability as a BOINC manager, RPC. Most VNC apps have incorporated some form of security but can be problematic to implement. Some of the more popular VNC apps include TeamViewer (http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx) and UltraVNC (http://www.uvnc.com/index.php) among others.

spingadus
06-08-11, 11:21 PM
Administering my meager farm of 2 machines has been relatively simple so far and boincstats BAM is pretty effortless. All of my machines are going to be at my home, so that makes it easier on me. I plan on using a combination of vnc and ssh in a mix of windows and linux (cuz it's free!).

The point I was trying to make about being on vacation was that the only way I can add my machines to the competition would be to let a friend or family come in and turn my boxes on for that duration. I will be incommunicado with no connectivity to my home network at all.

I'm not setup yet to allow for 24/7 running due to the summer heat unfortunately. I was going to either try a separately AC'd room or the garage. Not sure yet. When I crunched in the past, I just left a bunch of machines at work where it was nice and cool. Doing this at home takes a lot more planning. It makes me feel like such a newb. :)

Fire$torm
06-08-11, 11:42 PM
Administering my meager farm of 2 machines has been relatively simple so far and boincstats BAM is pretty effortless. All of my machines are going to be at my home, so that makes it easier on me. I plan on using a combination of vnc and ssh in a mix of windows and linux (cuz it's free!).

The point I was trying to make about being on vacation was that the only way I can add my machines to the competition would be to let a friend or family come in and turn my boxes on for that duration. I will be incommunicado with no connectivity to my home network at all.

I'm not setup yet to allow for 24/7 running due to the summer heat unfortunately. I was going to either try a separately AC'd room or the garage. Not sure yet. When I crunched in the past, I just left a bunch of machines at work where it was nice and cool. Doing this at home takes a lot more planning. It makes me feel like such a newb. :)

OK. Well on Windows you could set up a few scheduled tasks to change which projects get crunched on or after system start up. If you do that in conjunction with your BOIS to start and stop your system if it has that feature. Then all a friend would have to do is boot up the system at your chosen time of day.

Maxwell
06-08-11, 11:43 PM
Are you corrupting our youth again Max!?! :p;)
Proudly. Recruiting to the best subteam. We have cookies!


Changed... except for PG. I like the idea of getting badges, so I want to keep running the LLR stuff. Sharing the gpu with projects other than PG will lessen my credit output for the team, but I guess there is no way around that.
I'm personally not a badge person, but others (like zombie67) are. They're like "within project Mega Milestones". Cool stuff.


3) Is there a list of which projects I should be running first, once I slim down my active project list? Perhaps some of the projects are at the end of their lifecycle and I should get on those first?
Oh god. This is awfully complicated of a question, and can best be answered if you tell us what hardware you're crunching with...

If I were spingadus, what would I do?
1. Send Maxwell the 590
1. Crunch FreeHAL and WUProp always and without fail on every machine.
2. Take the 590 and run PG up to 10M (shouldn't take much longer than a week). [This will get you to show up on the 2.5M, 5M, and 10M MM lists, as the minimum for those is one].
3. Like CBS said earlier, don't crunch everything all at once. Pick one or two projects at a time, and go for them.
4. CPU-wise, I've heard rumblings of Enigma and Cosmology being in scary positions of "maybe we'll close"
5. Pick a MM threshold and crunch every CPU project to that level before you concentrate on anything else. I started off crunching to 10k, then moved on to 100k. If I were you, I'd start with crunching to 10k.
6. Once you hit your 10M in PG, crunch Collatz to 1M (will get you to show up on the 1M list; minimum = 2 in that category).
7. Give Maxwell some of your LHC credits...
7. Take a credit-whore perspective for a bit, and run up some of the high-paying CPU projects to an awesome level. Aqua and Primaboinca are easy to run up pretty high at the moment.
8. Start taking up the other CUDA projects to your goal level.
9. etc...

Of course, ask questions along the way. The MM crew has pretty much been everywhere, so we'll probably be able to help you out...

Duke of Buckingham
06-08-11, 11:46 PM
To heavy your answer.

http://www.reallyfunnypictures.co.uk/miscellaneous/pics/23.06.07/300lbwheelie.jpg

spingadus
06-08-11, 11:57 PM
OK. Well on Windows you could set up a few scheduled tasks to change which projects get crunched on or after system start up. If you do that in conjunction with your BOIS to start and stop your system if it has that feature. Then all a friend would have to do is boot up the system at your chosen time of day.

This.

It should all be ready to go. The only questionable variable will be the friend or family member that I ask to do it.

spingadus
06-08-11, 11:58 PM
To heavy your answer.

http://www.reallyfunnypictures.co.uk/miscellaneous/pics/23.06.07/300lbwheelie.jpg

I think that guy misunderstood what 'rice rocket' meant.

joker
06-09-11, 12:06 AM
I think that guy misunderstood what 'rice rocket' meant.

Is that a guy???

Duke of Buckingham
06-09-11, 12:09 AM
Lets run out of here that guy is going to fall

http://www.theequinest.com/images/bearback.jpg

spingadus
06-09-11, 12:10 AM
I'm personally not a badge person, but others (like zombie67) are. They're like "within project Mega Milestones". Cool stuff.

This sounds like myself. I want it all!!!
I'm going for MM, but I also want badges and stuff... and I want to help out the team for rank... and I want credits...and cookies are good :)


Oh god. This is awfully complicated of a question, and can best be answered if you tell us what hardware you're crunching with...

I currently have 2 machines(planning on more).
1) i7 920 soon to have a gtx 590
2) core 2 duo soon to have a gtx 260

I plan on building a new machine by the end of summer to replace my old i7 and no longer new gtx 590. Too bad Keplar isn't coming soon.

After that I'm going to build as many pc's as I can from scraps and cheap parts.


If I were spingadus, what would I do?

Buy me a winning lottery ticket.


1. Send Maxwell the 590
Can I take a 5 year raincheck on that?


1. Crunch FreeHAL and WUProp always and without fail on every machine.
2. Take the 590 and run PG up to 10M (shouldn't take much longer than a week). [This will get you to show up on the 2.5M, 5M, and 10M MM lists, as the minimum for those is one].
3. Like CBS said earlier, don't crunch everything all at once. Pick one or two projects at a time, and go for them.
4. CPU-wise, I've heard rumblings of Enigma and Cosmology being in scary positions of "maybe we'll close"
5. Pick a MM threshold and crunch every CPU project to that level before you concentrate on anything else. I started off crunching to 10k, then moved on to 100k. If I were you, I'd start with crunching to 10k.
6. Once you hit your 10M in PG, crunch Collatz to 1M (will get you to show up on the 1M list; minimum = 2 in that category).
7. Give Maxwell some of your LHC credits...
7. Take a credit-whore perspective for a bit, and run up some of the high-paying CPU projects to an awesome level. Aqua and Primaboinca are easy to run up pretty high at the moment.
8. Start taking up the other CUDA projects to your goal level.
9. etc...

Will do, minus the LHC credits :P

PS. I stopped all new tasks except for PG and moo!(cuz i want to help), wg(badges) and the nci stuff.

/sping

Maxwell
06-09-11, 12:12 AM
Is that a guy???
The name is "Pat"

joker
06-09-11, 12:32 AM
This sounds like myself. I want it all!!!
I'm going for MM, but I also want badges and stuff... and I want to help out the team for rank... and I want credits...and cookies are good


This is just my thoughts....If you want max credits from your current video cards (as zombie stated), keep them on PG for now. It will eventually get you the higher end MMs. Use your CPUs to get the lower end MMs. In your future rigs, get yourself some ATI/AMD cards to get more MMs in other projects. All credits acquired help the team! I hope the MM guys dont hate me for saying this. ;)

Maxwell
06-09-11, 12:51 AM
This is just my thoughts....If you want max credits from your current video cards (as zombie stated), keep them on PG for now. It will eventually get you the higher end MMs. Use your CPUs to get the lower end MMs. In your future rigs, get yourself some ATI/AMD cards to get more MMs in other projects. All credits acquired help the team! I hope the MM guys dont hate me for saying this. ;)
Nope. That's actually not incompatible with my advice. Well played, sir. :D

YoDude9999
06-09-11, 02:17 AM
Does this mean I'm gonna have to fend off another "Team Member" from stalking my current position?

I hate Moo!...Well not really hate, but am displeased with them. Some Team members state they can run Moo! in 10 mins. or less per/WU, but it takes me 2+ hours to do them. That makes me unhappy. I'll stick with Dnet for that credit.

If I've done my math anywhere close to right, that one 590 card should pull down around 1m credit/day if not more/maybe a bit less, running PG. I would put that sucker to work on PG and leave it there for the ultimate in credit gathering.

Of course being a [TopGun] makes me very biased, but I know what I'm doing.

Lately, I see some other members dropping off in production. This makes me wonder.....what IS it all about? Weather, electric bills, being away from home whilst on trips? Excessive heat in the basement?.......Who knows?

Or should I say....What is it ALL about?

Well....

It's about the TEAM!
It's about the Glory!
It's about the FUN!
It's about Challenge!
It's about WINNING!
It's about BEING NUMBER 1!

How much difference is crunching for BOINC is there as compared to watching football, baseball, racing, or, anything else?

Well, here's the answer..........(drum roll......)

When you're watching TV on all the sport channels, that's all you're doing...Watching!

When you're crunching on all the BOINC projects, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING! SUDDENLY, you are NOT just a spectator, you are a PLAYER and YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!

I vote we somehow get CRUNCHING initiated as a true SPORT in life!

Wouldn't that stir up some $hit?

Yo-

Fire$torm
06-09-11, 02:41 AM
OK. Well on Windows you could set up a few scheduled tasks to change which projects get crunched on or after system start up. If you do that in conjunction with your BOIS to start and stop your system if it has that feature. Then all a friend would have to do is boot up the system at your chosen time of day.


This.

It should all be ready to go. The only questionable variable will be the friend or family member that I ask to do it.

The easiest way to that is with batch files having commands using BOINC's command line tool called boinccmd.exe. You can find a complete list of its commands here. (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool) Just copy and paste the whole page to a text file for reference.

For a how to for Windows 7 Task Scheduler look here. (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766428.aspx) Although it really isn't that hard to figure out.

One last bit. I have this "Thing" about having to click through multiple menus to run stuff I use constantly. So back in my Windows 2000 days I made a custom Microsoft Management console (MMC) for my most used Windows tools which includes Task Scheduler. The cool part is that it also works on XP, Vista and Win7. This attachment 207 contains that file if you want to use it. Just put the file in a folder of your choice and right-click on it and send it to the Desktop as a shortcut.

Also, if you need any help or have any questions just post it/them in this thread.

Enjoy.

Mike029
06-09-11, 09:16 AM
Does this mean I'm gonna have to fend off another "Team Member" from stalking my current position?

I hate Moo!...Well not really hate, but am displeased with them. Some Team members state they can run Moo! in 10 mins. or less per/WU, but it takes me 2+ hours to do them. That makes me unhappy. I'll stick with Dnet for that credit.

If I've done my math anywhere close to right, that one 590 card should pull down around 1m credit/day if not more/maybe a bit less, running PG. I would put that sucker to work on PG and leave it there for the ultimate in credit gathering.

Of course being a [TopGun] makes me very biased, but I know what I'm doing.

Lately, I see some other members dropping off in production. This makes me wonder.....what IS it all about? Weather, electric bills, being away from home whilst on trips? Excessive heat in the basement?.......Who knows?

Or should I say....What is it ALL about?

Well....

It's about the TEAM!
It's about the Glory!
It's about the FUN!
It's about Challenge!
It's about WINNING!
It's about BEING NUMBER 1!

How much difference is crunching for BOINC is there as compared to watching football, baseball, racing, or, anything else?

Well, here's the answer..........(drum roll......)

When you're watching TV on all the sport channels, that's all you're doing...Watching!

When you're crunching on all the BOINC projects, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING! SUDDENLY, you are NOT just a spectator, you are a PLAYER and YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!

I vote we somehow get CRUNCHING initiated as a true SPORT in life!

Wouldn't that stir up some $hit?

Yo-

I'm getting 700k from my 570. That card is 2 570 or 580's. ( I forget which one) It should do 1.25 a day on pg.

As far as crunching goes I don't quite see it in the same vein as football, hockey, etc I hate Boston any team from Boston and wish they never win another game again. With crunching I don't wish i'll on the other teams. Just wish they'd come over to our team.. We have cookies. @-)

dan
06-09-11, 07:20 PM
Just saw my electric bill. I figured 2 Dual cores, 2 i7s and 5 video cards running 24x7 would really jack up my electric bill, but the chart comparing this year and last year shows my crunching only being about 200 kilowatts extra a month. I guess I can add another board or another GPU. I wanna get to 2Mil a day so another card would do it.

This is really totally insanity.

Duke of Buckingham
06-09-11, 07:41 PM
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spingadus
06-09-11, 10:49 PM
Epic fail on my part.

I didn't consider that my case wasn't deep enough for my new 590. Talk about a let down.

:(

I have 5 days before I go out of town, so I need to decide what i'm going to do. I can either get a larger case and transplant everything into it or get a new full system. Not running my 590 is giving me anxiety.

ugh.

YoDude9999
06-09-11, 10:53 PM
I have one system that runs, "Open Air", no case at all.

Yo-

Maxwell
06-09-11, 11:42 PM
Can you remove a side panel?

Bryan
06-09-11, 11:45 PM
Epic fail on my part.

I didn't consider that my case wasn't deep enough for my new 590. Talk about a let down.

:(

I have 5 days before I go out of town, so I need to decide what i'm going to do. I can either get a larger case and transplant everything into it or get a new full system. Not running my 590 is giving me anxiety.

ugh.

I have some room, send it to me and I will break it in for you ;)

Fire$torm
06-09-11, 11:53 PM
Epic fail on my part.

I didn't consider that my case wasn't deep enough for my new 590. Talk about a let down.

:(

I have 5 days before I go out of town, so I need to decide what i'm going to do. I can either get a larger case and transplant everything into it or get a new full system. Not running my 590 is giving me anxiety.

ugh.

So what is blocking the card? HDD cage? Is it a structural part of the case?

spingadus
06-10-11, 12:36 AM
All is well!!! :)


Nothing some pliers and a sheet metal cutter couldn't handle.

I was butting up against the drive bays (mostly unused), which were soldered to the case. Not very eloquent, but I had to do it else I wouldn't be able to sleep tonight.

Now to see what she can do. Take her out number 1...

YoDude9999
06-10-11, 01:51 AM
Right on man! Lets see them numbers fly!
It's always good to get another mega cruncher going. If we had a few more people as dedicated, well......I guess I needn't say it....

Yo-

spingadus
06-10-11, 02:39 AM
So, I'm finishing up a few tasks for moo! and gpugrid before going solo on PG.

Interesting, Moo will actually use both gpus for a single task and about .91 cpu.

But when it switches to gpugrid, only 1 gpu is used and .35 cpu, while the second gpu goes idle. I would think it would attach to another task.

I suspended Moo and gpugrid and noticed that 2 PG tasks were each using a gpu as expected.

weird.

YoDude9999
06-10-11, 02:48 AM
Hmm, As a thought, try suspending any/all your CPU tasks and see if that makes your second GPU kick in on gpugrid.

Yo-

Maxwell
06-10-11, 03:06 AM
Interesting, Moo will actually use both gpus for a single task and about .91 cpu.

But when it switches to gpugrid, only 1 gpu is used and .35 cpu, while the second gpu goes idle. I would think it would attach to another task.

I suspended Moo and gpugrid and noticed that 2 PG tasks were each using a gpu as expected.
Welcome to the world of the MM cruncher... ;)

Moo and DNETC will both run only one task at a time, no matter now many GPUs you have. Currently, I have four GPUs in my system (2x5970) and run only 1 Moo task at a time (and one DNETC task when I was on that). And yeah, Moo CPU utilization is high - you'll probably have to dedicate 1 full core to it.

Yo hit upon an interesting issue I have yet to try - dedicating a full core to GPUGrid. I've heard it helps, but does NOT get GPU utilization up to near 100%. I have not tried that myself, though. I've also heard running 2 GPUGrid WUs/GPU helps (again, something I've not tried).

And when you say GPUGrid only runs on 1 GPU - does that mean you have 1 WU running on 1 GPU, and 1 WU not crunching while the other GPU sits idle? If so, that's not right. If you only have 1 GPUGrid WU downloaded, then what you described is normal.

Seriously, for the time being, crunch the crap out of PG. It's fun...:cool:

spingadus
06-10-11, 03:06 AM
Hmm, As a thought, try suspending any/all your CPU tasks and see if that makes your second GPU kick in on gpugrid.

Yo-

Ok. Suspended all cpu tasks. Still no change.

Suspended everything but the running gpu task, then resumed a single PG task. That task grabbed the idle gpu. so, no PG and Gpugrid are running.

Bug? I'll keep watching for this.

YoDude9999
06-10-11, 04:15 AM
Okay, so now you have me confused.....are you saying that GPUGrid is still only running on 1 GPU or both after suspending all other tasks? Or, are you saying that PG runs on both GPUs while GPUGrid does not after suspending any/all other tasks?

Max hit on something also...is the GPUGrid project giving you more than 1 WU to crunch?
If you only have 1 in your que, then you can only crunch 1 at a time. If this is true, then maybe there's a way to, "fake out" the project into giving you more than WU 1 at a time, but I don't know about that yet.

I would personally like to know this info as I was planning on running 3 GPUGrids at once, on 1 box, but if I cannot do this, then they will fall by the way-side.

Yo-

spingadus
06-10-11, 06:52 AM
Seems to be working now.

There was only a single gpugrid task to crunch. The problem was when boinc switched to the gpugrid task, it only used a single gpu while the other sat idle. I expected that other gpu to work on something else, PG for example.

Not sure what happened but now that same task (long wu) is working along side my PG task. So, both gpus are working now. Don't know what happened.

About the 'more than one wu at a time' question. How would I tell this? I just assumed 1 task/wu per line in the boinc manager.

Maxwell
06-10-11, 01:23 PM
About the 'more than one wu at a time' question. How would I tell this? I just assumed 1 task/wu per line in the boinc manager.
If your cache is set high enough, GPUgrid will let you download up to two WUs/GPU. So on the tasks list in BOINC manager, if you see another GPUgrid sitting there idle, ready to start, but one of your GPUs is sitting idle, then that's weird...

spingadus
06-10-11, 07:48 PM
Everything looks pretty normal now.

One thing I do notice is that gpugrid does not make very efficient use of my gpu compared to PG. PG pegs gpu 1 usage at 99%, while gpugrid has gpu 2 at around 30%.

zombie67
06-10-11, 09:31 PM
One more note about GPUGRID: You get a credit bonus if for each task you return quickly. I think within 24 hours, which starts at D/L, NOT when you start crunching it. So you don't want to D/L a task and have it sitting in your queue burning the clock, until you are close to starting to crunch it. So keep a very short queue setting for any GPUGRID machines. I use .5 days or less.

YoDude9999
06-11-11, 12:07 AM
Okay, straight forward question....Are you able to run 2 GPUGrid tasks at the same time, one running on each of your GPUs?

zombie67
06-11-11, 12:56 AM
Okay, straight forward question....Are you able to run 2 GPUGrid tasks at the same time, one running on each of your GPUs?

Straight forward answer: Yes. One task per GPU. If you had a dual GPU card, like a 590, it will run one task on each GPU...two at a time.

YoDude9999
06-11-11, 01:04 AM
Sweet, I'm getting "tingly" all over.

spingadus
06-11-11, 01:59 AM
One more note about GPUGRID: You get a credit bonus if for each task you return quickly. I think within 24 hours, which starts at D/L, NOT when you start crunching it. So you don't want to D/L a task and have it sitting in your queue burning the clock, until you are close to starting to crunch it. So keep a very short queue setting for any GPUGRID machines. I use .5 days or less.

Great info to know. thanks!