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zombie67
06-23-11, 10:52 AM
I hope everyone got their MMs!

http://falua.cesfelipesegundo.com/Neurona/forum_thread.php?id=8&nowrap=true#45

Bok
06-23-11, 11:05 AM
That link is to Neurona@Home, but I can't see anything saying either project is ending?

And I hope Ideologias isn't as I'm only at 66K!

zombie67
06-23-11, 11:35 AM
That link is to Neurona@Home, but I can't see anything saying either project is ending?

And I hope Ideologias isn't as I'm only at 66K!

Really? It's the last message in the thread, #45.

The common admin is talking about the impending end to Ideologias, which will free up bandwidth for Neurona.

Clank [MM]
06-23-11, 11:44 AM
But the home page says this, dated the 22:


Looks like the problems we suffered the last days have been solved. Our work generator had a bug. We fixed it and raised the number of WU in the cache, so now WUs are flowing as expected. Account creation has been re-enabled. We also upgraded a little bit our HW and have now a double Xeon.

zombie67
06-23-11, 11:52 AM
;18941']But the home page says this, dated the 22:


Looks like the problems we suffered the last days have been solved. Our work generator had a bug. We fixed it and raised the number of WU in the cache, so now WUs are flowing as expected. Account creation has been re-enabled. We also upgraded a little bit our HW and have now a double Xeon.

Yep. I think it is a common machine.

Bok
06-23-11, 11:57 AM
Really? It's the last message in the thread, #45.

The common admin is talking about the impending end to Ideologias, which will free up bandwidth for Neurona.

ah, yes I see it now. Hopefully I'll get to 100K before then :)

zombie67
06-23-11, 12:36 PM
ah, yes I see it now. Hopefully I'll get to 100K before then :)

Yep. And I am going full out on it, to try to get my 250k.

trigggl
06-23-11, 01:12 PM
Yep. And I am going full out on it, to try to get my 250k.
Shift the decimal place one to the left, and I figure I should be able to reach that. I should be able to get to 25k within the week or two left. I guess I better try since my focus is now getting my 10k's to 25k.

vaio
06-23-11, 05:10 PM
Shame. Only just started......spose I can only target about 50k.

NJCaNS
06-25-11, 01:12 AM
Smelling a permanent team #1 in the making.**==

trigggl
06-25-11, 01:24 AM
Smelling a permanent team #1 in the making.**==

We should be able to get to 500k as a team. I think Mumps alone will get us there in a couple of days. Do we have enough time to get to 1M? That may be pushing it.

Maxwell
06-25-11, 02:07 AM
Hell. I'm all in. Hit my 25k. Hopefully I'll get another MM.

vaio
06-25-11, 05:28 PM
Step it up Maxy

Maxwell
06-25-11, 08:01 PM
Step it up Maxy
I'm working on it... ;)

NJCaNS
06-25-11, 11:33 PM
We should be able to get to 500k as a team. I think Mumps alone will get us there in a couple of days. Do we have enough time to get to 1M? That may be pushing it.Site wouldn't let me join up today. :-(

zombie67
06-26-11, 10:50 AM
Site wouldn't let me join up today. :-(

Account creation is open again.

I know I sound like a broken record, but anyway: *ALWAYS* create an account at all projects possible, as soon as possible. Even if you don't plan on ever crunching for a particular project. You may change your mind in the future, or the team may need your help, etc. Don't count on account creation staying open for ever.


Edit: Spoke too soon. I didn't read the timestamps on the news feed. They opened it, and then closed it again a day later. Still closed I assume.

DrPop
06-26-11, 12:59 PM
I'm working on it... ;) Yeah, how's it going? Is this a slow validating project or what? ;)

vaio
06-26-11, 01:36 PM
Validation is quick enough and wu's are short

zombie67
06-26-11, 03:14 PM
Update from the admin:

http://falua.cesfelipesegundo.com/Ideologias/forum_thread.php?id=21&nowrap=true#124


Hi Al.

This set has 678699 WU to solve, and currently we are in the 360000's, more or less. This should give us work for a week more, approximately. Analysing the data will take several weeks, and then I'd like to produce a new model with better fitting. Hard to say, but we will have work to crunch intermittently at least until the end of this year, when I expect Meningococo@Home to begin.

I think we should be able to keep our #1 spot on this project, as long as we keep on it, when work is issued.

dan
06-26-11, 06:18 PM
I know I sound like a broken record, but anyway: *ALWAYS* create an account at all projects possible, as soon as possible.

Do you have a list of all projects. I only have about 35.

zombie67
06-26-11, 06:33 PM
Do you have a list of all projects. I only have about 35.

This is a good place to start:

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=0a7b8378436fdcaef549d87e35f26480

Duke of Buckingham
06-26-11, 06:53 PM
WOW zombie is impressive. Congratulations on your Stats Page.

So Many Stones
http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1365756/2/istockphoto_1365756-many-stones-stone-cairn.jpg

Fire$torm
06-26-11, 09:04 PM
Do you have a list of all projects. I only have about 35.

You could try this ----> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Project_list

dan
06-26-11, 09:16 PM
This is a good place to start:

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=0a7b8378436fdcaef549d87e35f26480

It should take me a while to add all these.

trigggl
06-26-11, 11:26 PM
It should take me a while to add all these.
Remember to join the team when you do.

YoDude9999
06-26-11, 11:49 PM
Oh My! I almost have a 10k MS!

NJCaNS
06-27-11, 01:50 AM
Account creation is open again.

I know I sound like a broken record, but anyway: *ALWAYS* create an account at all projects possible, as soon as possible. Even if you don't plan on ever crunching for a particular project. You may change your mind in the future, or the team may need your help, etc. Don't count on account creation staying open for ever.


Edit: Spoke too soon. I didn't read the timestamps on the news feed. They opened it, and then closed it again a day later. Still closed I assume.Could make this a 1 million Team MM. Would take about 4 days at our (your) current pace.

Since I can't join I'll make the offer to crunch for one/some of you to get your MM (if it's still dishing out work units). PM me your account and project PW and I'll try to put a few CPU's on it for you. Proximity to a MM will determine whom I try to help.

FYI: SUSA has crunched almost 16% of all WU's so far.

DrPop
06-28-11, 12:20 AM
Why not jump on Maxwell's ID? That's what I did. ;) He could use the boost, trying to get him to 100K before they shut 'er down!

Maxwell
06-28-11, 12:55 AM
Why not jump on Maxwell's ID? That's what I did. ;) He could use the boost, trying to get him to 100K before they shut 'er down!
Hehe... it's already done. Good thought, though... ;) ~3 days until 100k. :cool:

NJCaNS
06-28-11, 12:59 AM
Why not jump on Maxwell's ID? That's what I did. ;) He could use the boost, trying to get him to 100K before they shut 'er down!
Jump on Maxwell? Not enough moolah in the world. :D

Isn't that Joker's mom's job? :)

Speaking of which, haven't seen Joker around much. Is he on vacation?

Fire$torm
06-28-11, 01:19 PM
..........Speaking of which, haven't seen Joker around much. Is he on vacation?

Donno......

For Ideologies I now have my 3 Quads running this. My singles are working on my next RNA MM, 100K.

Edit: How come no one mentioned the sloooooooow project stats updating? I wish project admins would realize how much this kind of stuff irks most crunchers.

vaio
06-28-11, 04:23 PM
How come no one mentioned the sloooooooow project stats updating? I wish project admins would realize how much this kind of stuff irks most crunchers.

Indeed, I am hoping to pass Bok and take U.K number one spot, for a day at least :cool:

vaio
06-28-11, 04:48 PM
Yay, got it lol.

Mumps
06-28-11, 10:19 PM
Congrats team! We have now collectively hit 1 Mil on Ideologias this evening.

Time to head for 5 Mil!

Also, the admin has confirmed there are 700,000 WU's in this phase and we've now reached 470,000 sent out. So 2/3's of the way done with this bunch. Let's not miss our chance.

Cruncher Pete
06-28-11, 10:47 PM
Congrats team! We have now collectively hit 1 Mil on Ideologias this evening.

Time to head for 5 Mil!

Also, the admin has confirmed there are 700,000 WU's in this phase and we've now reached 470,000 sent out. So 2/3's of the way done with this bunch. Let's not miss our chance.

You got my vote... At least for a little while.:)

valyn42
06-28-11, 11:23 PM
Staying on it 'till it quits!:p

Fire$torm
06-29-11, 12:18 AM
Nice. Very Nice. Great work team! :-bd

DrPop
06-29-11, 10:11 AM
Congrats team! We have now collectively hit 1 Mil on Ideologias this evening.Time to head for 5 Mil!Also, the admin has confirmed there are 700,000 WU's in this phase and we've now reached 470,000 sent out. So 2/3's of the way done with this bunch. Let's not miss our chance. I cannot fathom exactly how we are so into such an ultra low paying project, :P but...all my cores are crunching it for others... ;)

zombie67
06-29-11, 10:52 AM
I cannot fathom exactly how we are so into such an ultra low paying project, :P but...all my cores are crunching it for others... ;)

This is a great opportunity to own #1 in a project in perpetuity. Once it ends, there is no way for another team to take it away from us. And there is no effort required to keep it.

DrPop
06-29-11, 02:27 PM
Yes, yes, thank you Sir. ;) I do understand that part, I just had to be lone biter a little there...but that's what all the smilies were for. :D

Now, please let me all know when ya'll are ready to take a #1 at high paying project, say like... PG or something and I'll be there too! :)) ;) In all honesty, we've been doing pretty good lately on most of the higher paying projects. We just got that #1 @ Moo! with a lot of help, and also the #1 at Primaboinca fairly recently. We did lose the #1 at AQUA, but you just can't compete against the religion thing there! ;) Overall I have to say I am immensely pleased with how we've been doing, and the RAC keeps climbing, so I hope you all are too! Keep up the great work everyone! **==

zombie67
06-29-11, 03:31 PM
Now, please let me all know when ya'll are ready to take a #1 at high paying project, say like... PG or something and I'll be there too! :)) ;) In all honesty, we've been doing pretty good lately on most of the higher paying projects. We just got that #1 @ Moo! with a lot of help, and also the #1 at Primaboinca fairly recently. We did lose the #1 at AQUA, but you just can't compete against the religion thing there! ;) Overall I have to say I am immensely pleased with how we've been doing, and the RAC keeps climbing, so I hope you all are too! Keep up the great work everyone! **==

Those aren't the same thing. Taking a #1 at any of those would require constant effort and commitment to keep it (maybe not even possible). With this project, it requires no effort to keep, freeing us up to work on other projects.

DrPop
06-29-11, 06:15 PM
I understand. ;) I guess my subtle dry humor slipped through the cracks. This project and those others are leagues apart. I was truly only jesting about taking on PG or something of that nature - it is not possible at the moment. Someday, but not now. :) I will be donating my cores to the cause a while longer yet, it does seem like we are achieving your goal! %%-

YoDude9999
06-29-11, 11:09 PM
This is a great opportunity to own #1 in a project in perpetuity. Once it ends, there is no way for another team to take it away from us. And there is no effort required to keep it.

This is the kind of thinking I like to see. Crush them all, take the number one position AND KEEP IT FOREVER! This is a moment of true GLORY for the Team! This could be a very good omen for S.USA. With all the upgrades that some members have been doing, the stones piling up, commendatory congratulations should be given to all members that are participating on this project in it's final days.

Now for me being the credit ho I am, I really have no idea why I'm crunching this project, but somehow it just feels good (much like Joker's Mom, as Max will attest to) and I'm gonna hang on to the end of it and see this project through. I'll be a first for me and that makes it extra special. I hope for those that are willing to do the same, they feel that speciality (<--Note new word) in this that I do. TEAM ON!

Quick!.....Someone give me one of them beers that's so huge, there's NO WAY a person could possibly finish it!

NJCaNS
06-30-11, 12:07 AM
Maxwell has his 100K MM so I'm switching to Trigggl.
Unless of course Mumps needs a hand to take #1 on the project from B^S.

DrPop
06-30-11, 12:20 AM
Maxwell has his 100K MM so I'm switching to Trigggl.
Unless of course Mumps needs a hand to take #1 on the project from B^S.

EDIT: That sounds good NJ - I just got the heads up from Max that he is happy, so I will be over to Trig's with you soon. ;)

All my sarcastic comments and dry humor about poor credits aside, I am very impressed with the TEAM on this. Thank you all for coming together.:-bd

trigggl
06-30-11, 07:19 AM
EDIT: That sounds good NJ - I just got the heads up from Max that he is happy, so I will be over to Trig's with you soon. ;)

Thanks everyone for the help!

I did have to update the default preferences, since I normally don't use them. I don't know why the defaults are set to be so useless. I changed it to not suspend GPU, allow 8 cores (instead of 1), got rid of the 25% rule and re-enabled image file verification.

YoDude9999
07-01-11, 02:45 AM
Thanks everyone for the help!

I did have to update the default preferences, since I normally don't use them. I don't know why the defaults are set to be so useless. I changed it to not suspend GPU, allow 8 cores (instead of 1), got rid of the 25% rule and re-enabled image file verification.

Sore finger after all that work? =))

trigggl
07-02-11, 09:04 AM
Thanks for the help guys! I've reached 100k. Who can we help next? Is there time?

Fire$torm
07-02-11, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the help guys! I've reached 100k. Who can we help next? Is there time?

T Rank ____P Rank ____Avg ____7 days ____RAC ____FDC RAC ____Results_____Name
01-----------001-------83,264-----565,908---48,731------24,022-------713,222------Mumps [MM]
02-----------004-------17,788-----106,892---11,656------08,981-------271,399------zombie67 [MM]
03-----------010-------14,727-----098,744---09,357------05,386-------154,615------Clank [MM]
04-----------016-------11,224-----073,952---06,093------03,868-------104,756------Maxwell [MM]
05-----------021-------09,430-----072,564---06,791------03,085-------096,094------7ri9991 [MM]
06-----------028-------07,484-----047,666---03,769------02,125-------058,759------valyn42[MM]
07-----------030-------06,348-----047,000---03,465------01,646-------047,758------YoDude.SETI.USA [TopGun]
08-----------031-------06,208-----046,268---03,499------01,610-------047,558------Harley.SETI.USA [BlackOps]
09-----------036-------05,439-----038,223---02,656------01,410-------038,353------Dan
10-----------042-------01,658-----008,609---01,344------01,214-------033,256------DrBob
11-----------043-------04,054-----033,031---02,703------01,051-------033,031------Fire$torm.SETI.USA [BlackOps]
12-----------068-------01,304-----010,654---00,914------00,523-------016,494------[SETI.USA]Tank_Master
13-----------098-------00,914-----008,318---00,684------00,237-------008,318------Mike029.SETI.USA [BlackOps]
14-----------190-------00,244-----001,724---00,137------00,063-------001,724------Shadow.SETI.USA [TopGun]
15-----------281-------00,000-----000,421---00,041------00,001-------000,446------spingadus[MM]

spingadus
07-02-11, 01:59 PM
I'm just about at 1k for this project and once I get there, good riddance. I've had tons of problems with this and basically wasted a an entire machine for 24hrs to just get 1k. :( I'm not sure where the problem lies, but about 1-2 of every 10 tasks bugs out and never completes. It continues to take up a thread until aborted. Normal completion is about 10 minutes. I woke to find most of my threads running for hours on the same tasks, effectively taking them out of rotation for new tasks. Being an [MM] requires patience.

Maybe i'm just cranky.

Fire$torm
07-02-11, 04:36 PM
I'm just about at 1k for this project and once I get there, good riddance. I've had tons of problems with this and basically wasted a an entire machine for 24hrs to just get 1k. :( I'm not sure where the problem lies, but about 1-2 of every 10 tasks bugs out and never completes. It continues to take up a thread until aborted. Normal completion is about 10 minutes. I woke to find most of my threads running for hours on the same tasks, effectively taking them out of rotation for new tasks. Being an [MM] requires patience.

Maybe i'm just cranky.

The project had a batch of bad wu's. Sounds like you got most of them :(
There could be a problem with your project files. If you want to give it another shot abort all I@H wu's and do a manual update, shut down BOINC, find the Ideologies folder and delete it and then restart BOINC.

spingadus
07-02-11, 06:11 PM
The project had a batch of bad wu's. Sounds like you got most of them :(
There could be a problem with your project files. If you want to give it another shot abort all I@H wu's and do a manual update, shut down BOINC, find the Ideologies folder and delete it and then restart BOINC.

Actually, I checked and my tasks were not in the prueba2xxxxx range. They were all prueba5... and prueba6... tasks. Most would complete, but about 1 in 10 would not. I found a ton of the ideologias worker_0.21 and wrapper_0.21 processes running for no reason. I'm assuming that they were the aborted tasks processes. Perhaps a win7|64bit bug?

Anyways, I've got my 1k and don't think I can get to 10k, so no worries. Even the smallest milestone is better than none.

I'm working on both [mm] and badge acquisition at the moment only on 1 pc due to the heat here (about 102 F).

I do appreciate the help, which I will use the next time I run into a similar issue. Thanks! :)

/sping

Mumps
07-02-11, 07:06 PM
Actually, I checked and my tasks were not in the prueba2xxxxx range. They were all prueba5... and prueba6... tasks. Most would complete, but about 1 in 10 would not. I found a ton of the ideologias worker_0.21 and wrapper_0.21 processes running for no reason. I'm assuming that they were the aborted tasks processes. Perhaps a win7|64bit bug?

Anyways, I've got my 1k and don't think I can get to 10k, so no worries. Even the smallest milestone is better than none.

I'm working on both [mm] and badge acquisition at the moment only on 1 pc due to the heat here (about 102 F).

I do appreciate the help, which I will use the next time I run into a similar issue. Thanks! :)

/sping

I have also seen a few of the newer WU's failing on my Windows XP 64bit machine. But they simply bomb out. I haven't noticed anything running more than the roughly 30 minutes my slowest machine has been posting. Not sure what to say.

spingadus
07-02-11, 07:14 PM
I have also seen a few of the newer WU's failing on my Windows XP 64bit machine. But they simply bomb out. I haven't noticed anything running more than the roughly 30 minutes my slowest machine has been posting. Not sure what to say.

Bombing out would be preferable to just running forever. I could mention it on the project forum, but it's the end of the project anyways. So, meh. I'm just happy to get a milestone.

Now to get me them thar badges!

NJCaNS
07-02-11, 11:51 PM
Thanks for the help guys! I've reached 100k. Who can we help next? Is there time?And you got past that Maxwell guy too.:P
So what next? I'm inclined to move away from Ideologias now unless someone else needs to reach a reachable MM/goal. It would be nice to reach a Team 2.5 MM but I'm thinking there's not enough WU's or motivation to do so (we need about 3 days at current rates to do this).
So I'll be heading back to better paying CPU projects like PG, Prima and Aqua for a month or so.

Mumps
07-03-11, 11:17 AM
Well, it looks like the admin recreated those bad WU's. 29xxxx range is being distributed now and they seem to be working fine this time.

That does mean we've got another 10K of WU's added to the pile. So another day to crunch for goals.

Mike029
07-03-11, 03:26 PM
Seems like they ran out of WU's. Damn, just missed my 10k there.:(

NJCaNS
07-03-11, 04:35 PM
Seems like they ran out of WU's. Damn, just missed my 10k there.:(Seems to be running dry. Not sure how close you are but set you boxes to check frequently for straggler WU's. If I have any left on my boxes I'll abort them and they will probably go back into the queue for re-release.

Mike029
07-03-11, 10:47 PM
No luck, I'm about 400+ points from 10k. I'll get it next time. ;)

NJCaNS
07-04-11, 01:28 PM
No luck, I'm about 400+ points from 10k. I'll get it next time. ;)1,794 WU's still in progress. Maybe you have some. [-O<

Then again it's probably that guy Mumps. :)

Mumps
07-04-11, 01:51 PM
1,794 WU's still in progress. Maybe you have some. [-O<

Then again it's probably that guy Mumps. :)

Sorry to disappoint. Mine are all turned in already. Wish I could pull out another 89K, but it can wait until the next batch. :)

trigggl
07-04-11, 02:11 PM
I'd like to thank Maxwell for helping me to pass Maxwell.

YoDude9999
07-04-11, 04:13 PM
As of 07.03.11

News

Phase II completed / Completada Fase II
Today we have completed all calculations required for this second set of WU. There will be no more work available until analysis of the results is completed.