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STMahlberg
11-02-10, 11:45 AM
You know what that means people. Get out there and VOTE!
Mr. Hankey
11-02-10, 02:02 PM
Done! I don't think I have missed a single vote since I turned 18
You know what that means people. Get out there and VOTE!And make sure you have researched the candidates before you head to the polls! IMHO An uneducated vote is almost as bad and perhaps in some cases worse than no vote at all. We are the government and allow certain individuals to represent us for a short period of time, make sure the person you send to office does in fact represent you, your Republic, and local governments in a manner consistent with your beliefs and in accordance with our Republic's Constitution and the Constitution of your respective State.
zombie67
11-02-10, 05:13 PM
Right. You can't tell what you agree with, if you are only going by the names, short descriptions of the propositions and, or candidates party affiliation. Do everyone a favor and just stay home.
...Do everyone a favor and just stay home.No!
As I said above WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT. In order for our Republic to survive “We the people” MUST do our part and the greatest power we have as citizens is our vote. It’s said “With great power comes great responsibility”, your “power” as a legal citizen of our great Republic is your vote, your “responsibility” is to be informed about the candidate you vote for and just as importantly the basics of how our government is supposed to function.
Read! Gather all the information you can, from as many sources as you can and make an educated decision on which candidate will best represent you and your values in office. Don’t rely on others to tell you who will best serve.
Read our Republics founding documents and the biographies of our “Founding Fathers”, much of their correspondence and notes from the period of this countries founding and authoring of its founding documents still survive. Their thoughts and concerns of the time are eerily valid in contemporary times.
Every legal citizens vote counts, every singe vote. Just look back at the last Senatorial election here in MN and my hunch is many of the elections nationwide tonight. Once the lawyers crawl out of the woodwork they will scrape and scrounge to get every vote they can counted for their client(s) in these close elections.
It’s not too late to do some basic research and still get to the polls before they close (for most of us). Some knowledge is better than no knowledge at all.
YOU ARE THE GOVERNMENT, YOU HAVE THE POWER…
…GET OUT AND VOTE!
zombie67
11-02-10, 08:17 PM
You are saying get educated on the propositions and candidates, and then vote. I am saying if you aren't educated on the propositions and candidates, then don't vote. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
You said it yourself, "An uneducated vote is almost as bad and perhaps in some cases worse than no vote at all." I agree, except to say it is always worse.
I will concede your point. :-$
However I did say in closing…
It’s not too late to do some basic research and still get to the polls before they close (for most of us). Some knowledge is better than no knowledge at all.
This will not give anyone a comprehensive understanding of their candidates’ position and one certainly would not have time to research all contests or local referendums but they would probably be more educated than a great number of voters that showed up at the polls today
I guess my heartburn was I personally could not tell someone to stay away from the polls as they have the right to submit their ballot regardless of how flawed there selections may be.
On the bright side there is plenty of time for everyone to research before the 2012 election.
zombie67
11-02-10, 11:13 PM
Fair enough. But to be clear, I was not denying anyone their right to vote. I was asking them to voluntarily do the right thing and not vote, if they weren't up to speed.
STMahlberg
11-03-10, 01:38 PM
On a side note... I was reading that there are many areas of the Constitution that deal with ways that people cannot be denied the right to vote; however, the Constitution doesn't specifically ensure your right to vote.
In addition although the 26th Amendment states:
"The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age."
This Amendment doesn't restrict someone younger than 18 from voting; apparently the States have the ability to allow someone under 18 years of age to vote if they choose.
I don't know how any of this would hold up under scrutiny of the Supreme Court but I did find the concept itself interesting.
Voted, but the state of Maryland let me down again.
Mr. Hankey
11-03-10, 03:57 PM
Voted, but the state of Maryland let me down again.
Ditto in CA.... Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsome and Barbra Boxer, jobs killing "global warming" legislation..... man :(( :-q I didn't think this state could get much more in the crapper.
Mike029
11-03-10, 04:52 PM
It is more of the same here in NY. Spend more than you take in. Sad really.
zombie67
11-03-10, 06:27 PM
Ditto in CA.... Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsome and Barbra Boxer, jobs killing "global warming" legislation..... man :(( :-q I didn't think this state could get much more in the crapper.
Even worse than the people, we screwed ourselves with some of the props. We lowered the vote requirement for budgets, from 2/3 to simple majority. Before the republican minority could influence/roadblock the budget. No longer. The dems can pass whatever they want, and the new/old governor will probably rubber stamp it. Bankruptcy, here we come! The evil part is that when it comes, it will be the rest of the country who will pay to bail us out. Have fun with that!
Mr. Hankey
11-03-10, 08:50 PM
Even worse than the people, we screwed ourselves with some of the props. We lowered the vote requirement for budgets, from 2/3 to simple majority. Before the republican minority could influence/roadblock the budget. No longer. The dems can pass whatever they want, and the new/old governor will probably rubber stamp it. Bankruptcy, here we come! The evil part is that when it comes, it will be the rest of the country who will pay to bail us out. Have fun with that!
Oh yea, I forgot about that 2/3 prop. I think I blocked it out of my mind from the pain involved, thanks for reminding me. I am so ready to split and go to Texas.... If only I could.
STMahlberg
11-03-10, 09:47 PM
Nevada put Harry back into the Senate... sorry guys. Although on a positive note, I understand there is talk of removing Harry Reid as the Senate Majority Leader; I don't know if this will happen but it should. He's an arrogant, uncooperative bastard... not really sure about the whole father part but you get the idea.
Yeah...I promised myself I wouldn't join this thread, but I just can't help myself.
NV - What the heck were you thinking? Shoulda' kicked that pile of an uncooperative and arrogant man into one of your toxic waste dumps.
CA - This is my state now. Wow. I soooooo miss Alaska some times. Like finding out people voted Brown BACK into the Governorship? What the??? And Boxer? Give me a break. I'm sick to my stomach when I think of who these people around me THINK is going to "save" them. Please.
OK, I can't even talk about it anymore I'm so disappointed.
Maxwell
11-03-10, 11:28 PM
Oh yea, I forgot about that 2/3 prop. I think I blocked it out of my mind from the pain involved, thanks for reminding me. I am so ready to split and go to Texas.... If only I could.
On the plus side, Texas doesn't have a state income tax, so that would be good for your pocketbook... :p
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