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I am lucky enough to bring on a brand new little Toshiba lappy. It has an ATi HD4200 GPU, can anyone tell me which projects will it get GPU work as I am not getting any from PG or MW so far.
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I am lucky enough to bring on a brand new little Toshiba lappy. It has an ATi HD4200 GPU, can anyone tell me which projects will it get GPU work as I am not getting any from PG or MW so far.
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Well, I have a lappy with an integrated Radeon 3430 and it's been running Collatz fine. I didn't run into anything else that it ran, but that was long ago and some of the options available now didn't exist back then.
spingadus
08-16-11, 11:22 PM
Well, I have a lappy with an integrated Radeon 3430 and it's been running Collatz fine. I didn't run into anything else that it ran, but that was long ago and some of the options available now didn't exist back then.
Try moo!. Supposedly the best ATI credits.
Thanks for the input guys. PG was erroring out, and MW said it does not have the right computations. Either way, it is now on Moo. I wanted to put it on a project I have credits in already.
Moo! Wrapper is definitely going to be the highest payout for it. What kind of CPU does it have? Might have to play with the amount of CPU project you're crunching on it to get the max credits out of Moo.
Moo! Wrapper is definitely going to be the highest payout for it. What kind of CPU does it have? Might have to play with the amount of CPU project you're crunching on it to get the max credits out of Moo.
The CPU is: AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) II P360 Dual-Core Processor [Family 16 Model 6 Stepping 3].
Once it has cleared out the initial WU's from attaching to my selected projects, I have it set to our main 2 CPU projects at the moment and a little Leiden and ABC. It rolled very quickly through it's first ABC WU, but maybe I should keep that crunching on projects where we need it more.
The CPU is: AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) II P360 Dual-Core Processor [Family 16 Model 6 Stepping 3].
Once it has cleared out the initial WU's from attaching to my selected projects, I have it set to our main 2 CPU projects at the moment and a little Leiden and ABC. It rolled very quickly through it's first ABC WU, but maybe I should keep that crunching on projects where we need it more.
ABC is a project where the WU's vary greatly in the amount of time they take to calculate. From minutes to days. I stopped crunching when their progress indicator (http://www.rekenmeemetabc.nl/) exceeded 100%. Looks like they've capped it at 100% now, so all the work they're doing now is above and beyond their initial stated goal for the project. They also released an updated app a while ago, to support processing the larger numbers they were getting in to. That App was a lot less efficient than the old one, which translated to a huge drop in CS/second. Another reason to have moved away. :)
IIRC, when I tried running Moo! on my 3430, it killed the interactive performance of the system. Seeing as it's my work laptop, I couldn't have that. Another reason it's running Collatz. :)
Ok, I will NNW ABC then for the little lappy and stay on my usuals for now. :)
Mike029
11-29-11, 10:42 AM
I'm looking at add a box for the push that has a HD 4200. I'm not having any luck running anything, Collatz, Moo, etc. It's not seeing the gpu. It is an integrated gpu but says it's an HD 4200.
I check the settings in BM to use the gpu. When I check Bam it dose not have the check box to allow AMD work only cpu work. Any suggestions?
Mike, my first guess would be old drivers that don't have the right SDK package or no Open CL support. If it's and ATI GPU, then Moo! and especially Collatz should run on it. The only problem I can think of is if it doesn't have enough video RAM to crunch. You can check that possibility by going into the Event Log in BOINC, and seeing if it's disabling the GPU or whatever it's saying after it searches for what GPU is installed. It will be close to the top of the log when you first start up BOINC and next to where it lists your CPU specs.
Mike029
11-29-11, 11:42 AM
Mike, my first guess would be old drivers that don't have the right SDK package or no Open CL support. If it's and ATI GPU, then Moo! and especially Collatz should run on it. The only problem I can think of is if it doesn't have enough video RAM to crunch. You can check that possibility by going into the Event Log in BOINC, and seeing if it's disabling the GPU or whatever it's saying after it searches for what GPU is installed. It will be close to the top of the log when you first start up BOINC and next to where it lists your CPU specs.
Yeah BM says no usable gpu. Brand new box and thought the updates were already done. NOPE.. I'm updating the video driver now. Hoping that does the trick. Thanks.
Duke of Buckingham
11-29-11, 03:36 PM
ATI HD 4200 Where to put it?
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I refuse to answer that question.
Duke
Fire$torm
11-29-11, 04:01 PM
ATI HD 4200 Where to put it?
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I refuse to answer that question.
Duke
Naughty Duke!
Mike029
11-29-11, 06:41 PM
success!! Looks like I got it crunching. Now I'll test it on Moo, then Collatz, MW is just too unstable right now.
coronicus
11-29-11, 06:46 PM
WOOT WTG
NICE! It'll be "slow", but every bit helps! :D Moo! should give the best credits, with Collatz as a good option if the temps get too high on Moo!...:cool:
Mike029
11-29-11, 10:08 PM
NICE! It'll be "slow", but every bit helps! :D Moo! should give the best credits, with Collatz as a good option if the temps get too high on Moo!...:cool:
Yeah, No OC'ing it's an HP box. I'll watch it. I'm hoping to get one more on line before the Big Push. Thanks for the advice.
Mike029
11-30-11, 07:55 AM
7+ hrs per wu. lol. At least it's something.
Beerdrinker
11-30-11, 10:58 AM
7+ hrs per wu. lol. At least it's something.
Get that thing doing some Mini-Collatz WU´s....Should be very quick to run, and they pay around 350-400 @ piece
Slicker
11-30-11, 07:10 PM
I'm looking at add a box for the push that has a HD 4200. I'm not having any luck running anything, Collatz, Moo, etc. It's not seeing the gpu. It is an integrated gpu but says it's an HD 4200.
I check the settings in BM to use the gpu. When I check Bam it dose not have the check box to allow AMD work only cpu work. Any suggestions?
What version drivers are you running? Catalyst 11.11? Other?
Possible suggestion:
1. uninstall the video driver
2. run a driver cleaner app to really make sure it is gone
3. reinstall
4. Don't trust windows to update the driver. Get it yourself from AMD and install it manually.
Once the BOINC client acknowledges you have a GPU that can crunch, you shouldn't have any problem getting work from Collatz.
Mike029
11-30-11, 07:15 PM
What version drivers are you running? Catalyst 11.11? Other?
Possible suggestion:
1. uninstall the video driver
2. run a driver cleaner app to really make sure it is gone
3. reinstall
4. Don't trust windows to update the driver. Get it yourself from AMD and install it manually.
Once the BOINC client acknowledges you have a GPU that can crunch, you shouldn't have any problem getting work from Collatz.
I did just that. Upgraded the driver and it's crunching away. The problem is that it says I have a AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (368MB) driver: 1.4.1457. Windows says I have an HD 4200. :-s I'm only using 3 cpu cores to free up one for the gpu. Looks like it may have reduced the crunching times. I still can not get Collatz to crunch. I'll play with it some more tomorrow.
Mike029
12-01-11, 04:47 PM
I've been running Moo now and looking at these times and the about of credits I'm getting it's not worth it to run Moo.
http://moowrap.net/results.php?hostid=6463&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=
4947374 3644826 30 Nov 2011 | 20:17:07 UTC 1 Dec 2011 | 5:51:05 UTC Completed and validated 17,160.75 17,147.79 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4947373 3644823 30 Nov 2011 | 20:17:07 UTC 1 Dec 2011 | 10:37:09 UTC Completed and validated 17,161.60 17,142.39 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4947372 3644817 30 Nov 2011 | 20:17:07 UTC 1 Dec 2011 | 15:50:59 UTC Completed and validated 18,824.90 1,177.06 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4947371 3644784 30 Nov 2011 | 20:17:07 UTC 1 Dec 2011 | 21:07:58 UTC Completed and validated 19,018.70 734.27 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4947363 3620575 30 Nov 2011 | 20:17:07 UTC 1 Dec 2011 | 1:04:59 UTC Completed and validated 17,272.00 17,203.81 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4912737 3644715 29 Nov 2011 | 22:53:13 UTC 30 Nov 2011 | 12:46:14 UTC Completed and validated 28,210.24 22,230.13 357.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4911933 4052794 29 Nov 2011 | 22:53:13 UTC 30 Nov 2011 | 20:11:40 UTC Completed and validated 19,555.95 16,714.71 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
4910453 4051792 29 Nov 2011 | 22:53:13 UTC 30 Nov 2011 | 14:42:06 UTC Completed and validated 25,335.15 16,689.56 272.00 Distributed.net Client v1.02 (ati14)
Not sure why I'm not getting the 6k for doing these but if I stop these Moo wu's and go back to four cores, The extra Cpu core gets 200 points per wu. See below.
6436181 5359765 29 Nov 2011 15:29:08 UTC 1 Dec 2011 3:30:22 UTC Completed and validated 5,855.71 5,844.42 33.56 200.00 primaboinca v7.05
6436180 5359764 29 Nov 2011 15:29:08 UTC 1 Dec 2011 3:40:43 UTC Completed and validated 5,900.21 5,891.08 33.83 200.00 primaboinca v7.05
6436178 5359762 29 Nov 2011 15:29:08 UTC 1 Dec 2011 4:31:44 UTC Completed and validated 5,848.07 5,836.79 33.52 200.00 primaboinca v7.05
6436177 5359761 29 Nov 2011 15:29:08 UTC 1 Dec 2011 5:08:26 UTC Completed and validated 5,888.17 5,881.77 33.78 200.00 primaboinca v7.05
Maybe this lowend gpu s not worth running. Unless someone has some advice or can tell me what I'm doing wrong.
Thanks,
Mike.
Duke of Buckingham
12-01-11, 05:37 PM
Thanks for the explanation Mike I didn't understood a shitt but it was very interesting
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The girls are saying: We want Mike that blows better than anyone ...
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Blowing Duke >:)
I think a low end GPU is not worth the electricity it will consume unless it is extra, not taking away from the CPU. Thing is, Slicker's mini Collatz WUs are perfect for this scenario. Wouldn't have to shut down any cores, and you get GPU credits too. I wonder why it won't run Collatz? Anyone have any ideas on that?
Mike029
12-01-11, 08:41 PM
I think a low end GPU is not worth the electricity it will consume unless it is extra, not taking away from the CPU. Thing is, Slicker's mini Collatz WUs are perfect for this scenario. Wouldn't have to shut down any cores, and you get GPU credits too. I wonder why it won't run Collatz? Anyone have any ideas on that?
I'm beginning to think that this HP box has an IGPU masked as a HD4200. When I check the box on the Moo website it says the coprocessor is: AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (368MB) driver: 1.4.1457
Says nothing about an HD 4xxx series. I wish it would run Collatz. It errors out both the mini and reg. wu's. Tomorrow I'm shutting down Moo on it and just running the 4 cores on DiRT/Prima.
If you run GPU-Z on it, what does it list it as?:confused:
Eagle70ss
12-02-11, 03:04 AM
I'm beginning to think that this HP box has an IGPU masked as a HD4200. When I check the box on the Moo website it says the coprocessor is: AMD ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (368MB) driver: 1.4.1457
Says nothing about an HD 4xxx series. I wish it would run Collatz. It errors out both the mini and reg. wu's. Tomorrow I'm shutting down Moo on it and just running the 4 cores on DiRT/Prima.
Mike I have a asus m4a88td-v evo board that has the same gpu and I am running mini collatz on it. It runs just fine on it...I think it takes 2.5 hours to complete the WU.
My gpu specs say:: (from the Collatz site)
CAL ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (341 MB)....
MY driver# = 1.4.556
My OS is XP PRO...
Specs from my Device Manager....
Driver date = 02/10/2010
Driver Version = 8.710.0.0
You might have to go with this older driver...Looks like they borked it on the new driver versions.
Mike029
12-02-11, 04:06 PM
Mike I have a asus m4a88td-v evo board that has the same gpu and I am running mini collatz on it. It runs just fine on it...I think it takes 2.5 hours to complete the WU.
My gpu specs say:: (from the Collatz site)
CAL ATI Radeon HD 2300/2400/3200 (RV610) (341 MB)....
MY driver# = 1.4.556
My OS is XP PRO...
Specs from my Device Manager....
Driver date = 02/10/2010
Driver Version = 8.710.0.0
You might have to go with this older driver...Looks like they borked it on the new driver versions.
Im running win 7 Pro 64 so I'll take a look at the driver you mentioned.
Thanks Eagle,
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