I know why I left Seti

[Dorsilfin]

The credits suck lol. My full array and im only pulling maybe 50k points a day.. how pathetic. Going from 800k+ daily.. it sure does seem off.

Tho Imagine if Seti@home was competitive with credits? Im sure their system couldnt handle the massive amount of people trying to work the project.. heck I think it already has issues with that.

Dont think ill be sticking here long.. maybe hit 1 mill and call it done.


Seem strange tho considering most of us probably came from Seti@home.. and now not so many of us still actively crunch it.. I know I dont.

[trigggl]

Well, as long as they have the help they need, there's really no reason to raise credits. I suppose the same could be said for WCG.

[DrPop]

Yeah, I know what you mean. Every time I think about going for a 1Mil MM in SETI, I just can't bring myself to do it because of the low credits. I mean, I would have to give up something like 9 or 10 million credits in DiRT just to get the 650K I would need to hit 1Mil at SETI. If I was a true MMer I might be more tempted ... but even then, that's a hard sell.:p

[Cruncher Pete]

I left for the same reasons like most of you and do not intend to return soon. Having said that, I won't knock SETI for we still have a lot of newbies who are interested in searching for that elusive green man and in fact it is the backbone of our silent crunchers something like 1500 of them. Let us hope that once our Newsletter reaches them we might have some converts who will help us with better scoring projects to get us to the top.

[DrPop]

@C.P. - true, SETI@Home is like the gateway drug to Crunching!!! :D:cool:

[Mike029]

@C.P. - true, SETI@Home is like the gateway drug to Crunching!!! :D:cool:

So true. It's what got me hooked.

[Duke of Buckingham]

http://www.maxxiweb.com/files/wallpapers/fond/minus-et-cortex/1672.jpg

http://www.mactonnies.com/etmoonbase.jpg

Yeha man I am http://blogs.angrybee.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/internet-addiction.jpg

http://www.bayinteractive.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ADDICT.jpg SETI addicted Duke

[Philadelphia]

Boy, the folks over at SETI are a sensitive bunch. (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66269)

[DrPop]

Boy, the folks over at SETI are a sensitive bunch. (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=66269)

Lol! You are a good soul, replying as you did. The interesting thing is that Z and Mumps, etc, can give you all sorts of reasons not to crunch SETI anymore either, because their data is all screwed up to begin with. Kind of comical, the pot calling the kettle black. But don't bother to tell them, because they still don't get it.
At any rate, SETI is the gateway to all crunching projects; it is where I started and still would be without this team. I won't really knock it either, I just won't crunch it much anymore until they make some changes.
The suggestion to crunch Enigma is good - except that I would reply - when Enigma gives out credits like Moo! does, then suddenly it will be a whole lot more relevant to the discussion! :D ;)

Thanks for your even keel, mate, and have a great day crunching. In the end, we're just happy you joined with us to crunch.
See you around!
Pops

[Beerdrinker]

Lol! You are a good soul, replying as you did. The interesting thing is that Z and Mumps, etc, can give you all sorts of reasons not to crunch SETI anymore either, because their data is all screwed up to begin with. Kind of comical, the pot calling the kettle black. But don't bother to tell them, because they still don't get it.
At any rate, SETI is the gateway to all crunching projects; it is where I started and still would be without this team. I won't really knock it either, I just won't crunch it much anymore until they make some changes.
The suggestion to crunch Enigma is good - except that I would reply - when Enigma gives out credits like Moo! does, then suddenly it will be a whole lot more relevant to the discussion! :D ;)

Thanks for your even keel, mate, and have a great day crunching. In the end, we're just happy you joined with us to crunch.
See you around!
Pops

+1

Sometimes it feels like the people over at SETI has no clue to what is going on in the real world...

[c303a]

It would have been nice to ask them when SETI would finish. As far as I and a lot of other crunchers are concerned SETI is not only finished but also dead and buried.

[STE\/E]

I was running Pre Alpha SETI BOINC in late 2002, I'm not talking about SETI Classic which I was running long before that but BOINC SETI@home. As far as I am concerned they treated us like Dirt, Constantly Resetting the Credits at every turn. First it was Pre Alpha, then Alpha, then BETA, then Pre Public & the Public. I was with them every step of the way & they Re-set the Credits every Step of the way. I had 50k of Credits at some of those steps, not a lot by today's standards but back then on 3-4 P4 Box's it's was a lot of Credit.

Once the SETI BOINC Project went Public in early 2003 it was nothing but one foul up after another, something akin to like today lol ... Anyway during the summer of 2003 I crunched the Project for 3 month's straight without ever getting a single Credit because the Project was so screwed up. I made up my mind then if ever another BOINC Project started up I would never run SETI again. I was one of the founding Crunchers of BOINC, think I remember Zombie being there too, all the SETI Project ever did was treat us like dirt, throw us under the bus & use us for door mats IMO that's why I'll never run SETI again ... b-(

[Philadelphia]

I do give a big thanks to Claggy and TRuEQ & TuVaLu for their help with the app.

I did notice in the last half hour or so someone deleted all the 'stuff' about Moo in the posting.

People reading it were probably enticed by the idea of a project paying that much, lol.

They didn't want to advertise it :)

[zombie67]

A few observations:

1) If you want to crunch enigma@home, be sure to use the optimized app!

2) The S@H forums are the definition of "drama". *Everything* is a personal insult to someone there. Post about how the sky is blue and the sun is hot, and it will start a flame war. It makes my ass tired just thinking about that place.

3) S@H is and has always been poorly managed. They got some awesome hardware donations, a huge pipe, and still only barely keeps it running.

[Philadelphia]

2) The S@H forums are the definition of "drama". *Everything* is a personal insult to someone there. Post about how the sky is blue and the sun is hot, and it will start a flame war. It makes my ass tired just thinking about that place.


Funny you should mention that, when the posts were going back and forth with Richard Haselgrove, I PM'd him and said that 'now I remember why I quit BOINCing after a year and a half back in '08, all the 'personalities'.

We should start a web page, 'Why we quit SETI' and send the link and the feedback to the university, I suspect Berkley doesn't have a clue what's going on.

[STE\/E]

We should start a web page, 'Why we quit SETI' and send the link and the feedback to the university, I suspect Berkley doesn't have a clue what's going on.

They know & knew back in 2003 when BOINC SETI first started up, every Troll in the world was there & some of the same ones still are. They were Posting Pornographic Links, I mean Explicit Pornographic Links, some were of themselves, their wives & girlfriends & hookers whatever. When I started to object because of minors in the Forum they tried to Tar & Feather me & run me out of Town. After time they finally succeeded & I left for other Projects that had started up & haven't gone back again except to run some on my GPU's for a little while ...

[Ricky Moore]

Got bunches of WU's but can't get them to download! All I get is HTTP ERRORS!

12/7/2011 06:58:30 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 23oc11ag.17131.16836.12.10.98: HTTP error
12/7/2011 06:58:30 | SETI@home | Backing off 15 min 34 sec on download of 23oc11ag.17131.16836.12.10.98
12/7/2011 06:58:30 | SETI@home | Started download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.87
12/7/2011 06:58:44 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.87: HTTP error
12/7/2011 06:58:44 | SETI@home | Backing off 14 min 58 sec on download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.87
12/7/2011 06:58:44 | SETI@home | Started download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.98
12/7/2011 06:58:46 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.98: HTTP error
12/7/2011 06:58:46 | SETI@home | Backing off 11 min 8 sec on download of 23oc11ag.17139.16836.13.10.98
12/7/2011 07:00:03 | SETI@home | Temporarily failed download of 17se11ad.11939.12746.15.10.109: HTTP error
12/7/2011 07:00:03 | SETI@home | Backing off 14 min 48 sec on download of 17se11ad.11939.12746.15.10.109
12/7/2011 07:00:04 | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
12/7/2011 07:00:20 | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

[Slicker]

I'm with DrPop. I got 699K in SETI the first year I joined BOINC - mainly because I had crunched SETI classic years before. But, after trying several other projects and seeing how bad the SETI credits were, I haven't crunched it ever since. Even with GPU crunching I can't bring myself to go for the 1Mil MM.

When the SETI GPU apps first came out, they really hurt SETI because SETI had (and still has?) an background task that calculates the average credit for each type of host and adjusts the credit accordingly. So, as the SETI apps get better and better, the credit keeps getting adjusted downwards to make up for it. Rather than reward people running opt apps which complete more work in the same time, it essentially means that everyone NOT running the opt apps gets penalized because the credit gets lowered such that the opt app is the new standard. When the GPU apps first came out, they were seen as really, really fast optimized apps. That led to even lower credit. Then the complaints start that all the other projects are granting too much credit. Really? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you lower your credit the others will be higher than yours. Duh! But, we don't have to worry any more. We now we have the "new credit system" which will make it all fair.

...and they lived happily ever after. Not.

[Duke of Buckingham]

:-& Little green men are coming http://www.pondaray.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/little-green-men-3.png

http://www.yourhealthcareassistant.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Tall-Men.jpg Maybe they are not so little or green. :-?

:-B The Maias say that is in http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7760/2012scienceorsuperstiti.jpg

http://imagecache.artistrising.com/artwork/lrg//3/368/NUJ8000A.jpg They will come from the Ocean where they disapear. X_X

:-?? Should we call them Vimanas? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ncvpTd4seDg/TnfQP13AuzI/AAAAAAAAQIU/xbS4QCQB60M/s1600/flyingobjects26_05.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wiL90e2EcTo/THV-L9B9H1I/AAAAAAAAO4I/elLQsWxkk94/s1600/iantra.jpg and who is going to be Enoch this time. :confused:

One thing is sure if they were already here they came to help us and teach us. Now they are going to say how Seti should work. :D

:p Or maybe is only the end of the world http://info.abril.com.br/aberto/infonews/fotos/fim-do-mundo-2012-20091021102941.jpg

http://www.chileunderground.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/BigBeer.png I will have a beer before the world ends.:!!

Goodbye cruel world :((

Apocalipse Duke 615

[Duke of Buckingham]

I am joking of course.
http://imagens.fotoseimagens.etc.br/smile-endiabrado_5649_1024x768.jpg

Crazy Duke

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mdkMhqv4GZg/Tc-CuqMEheI/AAAAAAAAAZs/Jq-Y9bKe2wE/s1600/smile.jpg

[DrPop]

@Duke - I don't suppose any of us would mind a beer with the girl holding the pint before then. I doubt even the Mrs. would begrudge me that! ;)

[c303a]

@Duke - I don't suppose any of us would mind a beer with the girl holding the pint before then. I doubt even the Mrs. would begrudge me that! ;)

Why don't you let the Duke set that up for you. Take the Mrs. along with you and of course let us know how many bruises you have when you return.:mad::mad::mad::p:p:p

[DrPop]

Why don't you let the Duke set that up for you. Take the Mrs. along with you and of course let us know how many bruises you have when you return.:mad::mad::mad::p:p:p

Hehehe ... well, I was referring to right before the end of the world, you know, nothing like going out with a bang and all. :)) :D
I do have a cool wife, though. She probably wouldn't so much mind the three of us having a drink together - provided I wasn't after much more than that, of course! :o:cool:

[Duke of Buckingham]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XVL0bAzgq7c/TdBxUxCh9gI/AAAAAAAAAtA/URlJuvFxoz4/s1600/bright160511.JPG

Have one more beer to the Duke jokes that sometimes are too dark.

http://www.themanfaq.com/news/beerwomen/3beers.jpg

Join us?

Crazy Duke:P

[c303a]

Picture of the women must be Munich Germany during October Fest. Boy do I remember those days. Or maybe it is the hangovers I remember. Whatever, they were fun!!:D:D:D

[Philadelphia]

Those are unbelievable, beautiful, incredible, set of ....................................Mugs ^#(^