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Well some of you know I bought 4 5970's recently sold 2 of them so no problem there unless they get returned. Another one is running the Moo Project @ 850 Core since the day I got it without a single problem. The last one is just a Clusterfrak as far as I Concerned, been trying to run it @ 800 Core with limited success, it's been down as much as it's been up. Woke up this morning & yesterday morning with the Box rebooted & the VCard running in VGA Mode. The card was still running the Wu's but taking upwards of 45 Min's to run them, just a few min's ago I found the Box froze up or at least no response from the mouse anyway. After rebooting the Box I found out the Card had been running the same Wu for almost 4 Hr's, not the first time I've seen that either.
If I back the Card off to 750-775 it will run okay, at least for awhile anyway, but I've never left it running at those speeds because it's a waste of electricity to run a 5970 at 750-775. The Wu's take about as long to run as a single 5870 running @ 900 will run them. Even running the Card @ 800 your losing but it's acceptable. Running @ 850 it's almost break even, 14 min's for the 5970 v 26 Min for the 5870 @ 900 Core. Going to try the Card in one more Box & if it's the same think I'll either return it or try to sell it ... ~X(
Fire$torm
12-04-11, 03:31 PM
1) What are the reported temps at the 800 clock speed? GPU-Z (Link (http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/)) is a good tool for that. Just in case the problem is CCC.
2) Have you tried that card in a different system?
3) Since it could be a Windows issue have you tried crunching with that card under Linux?
The Cards not overheating 65-70c running under load temps
Second system it's been in already
If I run the card under Linux it will only run at the stock speed of 725, not acceptable, a single 5870 running @ 900 would be faster
I have a single 5870 running the MOO Wu's in 26 Min's, so if the 5970 won't run them in under 14 min's it's a waste to me. Still not as fast as a but close enough to keep the Card.
Fire$torm
12-04-11, 05:01 PM
OK. the Linux suggestion was for testing for stability only.
The problem you are having sounds sorta like DrPop's issue. Since you have tested the card in another box, it is very likely a faulty card. I would suggest contacting Newegg for an RMA.
OK. the Linux suggestion was for testing for stability only.
The problem you are having sounds sorta like DrPop's issue. Since you have tested the card in another box, it is very likely a faulty card. I would suggest contacting Newegg for an RMA.
I moved the Card to another Box & running it @ 800 to see what happens, if it messes up again I'll back it off to stock speeds & see what happens. I'm pretty sure it will run @ Stock speeds but haven't tested it there yet. The Box Boots okay, so it's not like DP's problem, it just doesn't seem to like to be Overclocked, or at lest not anywhere near as high of speeds as the other Card does.
Time will tell how long the Card running @ 850 will run at that speed before messing up or going bad, but so far it's been okay 4 days now ...
Mike029
12-04-11, 05:32 PM
The Cards not overheating 65-70c running under load temps
Second system it's been in already
If I run the card under Linux it will only run at the stock speed of 725, not acceptable, a single 5870 running @ 900 would be faster
I have a single 5870 running the MOO Wu's in 26 Min's, so if the 5970 won't run them in under 14 min's it's a waste to me. Still not as fast as a but close enough to keep the Card.
I can only get one gpu core to 850, the other I can't get past 770. I lost a bunch on time yesterday messing with it. I figured I'd let it burn in over the weekend and try again. I'm also using same amout of cpu time to complete the wu. Hmm, wondering if I need to return mine as well?
The whole thing is if the Card runs @ the Stock Speed it's not really bad as no Company guarantees you can Overclock the Cards it's just assumed you can, but if 1 Card hit's 850 you'd think the other one would be able to hit at least 800 & probably more. But I had already read in some forums & reviews some of the 5970 just won't Overclock very well, probably totally miss matched Cores. I mean the 2 Cores are not matched up very good for Overclocking & where the problem lie's I think ...
Mike029
12-04-11, 06:04 PM
Ahh, I guess I better scrap the idea of retuning it cause it won't oc to 850. :o I'm going to drop another 5870 in the box with the 5970 and see where if I can get the times down. My two 5870's oc'd to 900 & it's taking me 18 min per wu. Your's are done in 14 min. is awesome.
Well, finally decided to return mine after messing with it just a little longer; it's going back to the egg first thing in the morning. I'm really sorry if I steered anyone wrong on these - it just seemed like a good buy and was always my dream card. :(
For what it's worth, I have a Gigabyte 5870 @900 that does Moo! WUs in 26 and some change all the way up to 29mins, depending on what else I'm doing on the computer at the same time. Also (2) GTX 460s in there crunching DiRT, and all 6 CPU cores crunching DiRT - I am not holding any back while DiRT has CPU WUs, so that could be upping my times a little bit.
@SteVe - what is your mem clock speed on that 5870 that's doing them in 26mins?
Mike029
12-04-11, 09:47 PM
Well, finally decided to return mine after messing with it just a little longer; it's going back to the egg first thing in the morning. I'm really sorry if I steered anyone wrong on these - it just seemed like a good buy and was always my dream card. :(
For what it's worth, I have a Gigabyte 5870 @900 that does Moo! WUs in 26 and some change all the way up to 29mins, depending on what else I'm doing on the computer at the same time. Also (2) GTX 460s in there crunching DiRT, and all 6 CPU cores crunching DiRT - I am not holding any back while DiRT has CPU WUs, so that could be upping my times a little bit.
@SteVe - what is your mem clock speed on that 5870 that's doing them in 26mins?
I'd like to know as well. If I can squeeze another 2 mins. off my times I'll do it.
@Pop, what you getting as a replacement? How about a GTX 570? The Sparkle was $304.99 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187130
I know, I know it's always easier to spend other peoples money. :cool:
spingadus
12-05-11, 02:33 AM
Just curious as I'm not an ATI guy. Why not just go with a 6970? What's the draw of an older model card like the 5870/5970?
Well, finally decided to return mine after messing with it just a little longer; it's going back to the egg first thing in the morning. I'm really sorry if I steered anyone wrong on these - it just seemed like a good buy and was always my dream card. :(
For what it's worth, I have a Gigabyte 5870 @900 that does Moo! WUs in 26 and some change all the way up to 29mins, depending on what else I'm doing on the computer at the same time. Also (2) GTX 460s in there crunching DiRT, and all 6 CPU cores crunching DiRT - I am not holding any back while DiRT has CPU WUs, so that could be upping my times a little bit.
@SteVe - what is your mem clock speed on that 5870 that's doing them in 26mins?
Nobody held a gun to our heads to buy the 5970 DP, I even warned against them myself if you remember. I thought the price was a steal too & being it was Newegg with free shipping I figured it was worth the chance. I see this morning the Card has been running the Wu's in about 20 Min's, dirt slow (33% Slower) compared to the other 5970 I have running, mulling my options now with the Card. I think the Card is Throttling down but not sure, I backed it off to 775 & Stock Voltage to see what happens, I have 30 days at least to return it to Newegg so I have time to play with it. I might try to sell it to & see what happens with the new buyer, they might be perfectly happy with it ...
The 5870 I have running the MOO Wu's is actually running the Wu's in 26-29 Minutes, so basically all over the place too, that's the trouble with the MOO & Previously DNET Wu's, there's no consistent time with them like PG Wu's. I lower the Memory as far it will go with MSI Afterburner on MOO, PG & Milkyway, for Collatz & GPU Grid I run the Memory @ the Stock settings ...
Just curious as I'm not an ATI guy. Why not just go with a 6970? What's the draw of an older model card like the 5870/5970?
The 5970 is a Dual Core Card so for $300 like Newegg was selling them for it was worth a chance ...
spingadus
12-05-11, 04:54 AM
The 5970 is a Dual Core Card so for $300 like Newegg was selling them for it was worth a chance ...
Ah, i see, save $30 and get a dual core card that is comparable to a newer single core.
Save a lot more than $30 on a 5970 for $300, they normally sell for $500 & up ...
Mike029
12-05-11, 08:51 AM
Ah, i see, save $30 and get a dual core card that is comparable to a newer single core.
Performance wise there is no comparison. The 5970 blows away the 6970. It really is a great card. Two HD 5870's in one pci-e slot. I believe this card was the first attempt to put two gpus on one card. They learned a lot from these cards.
http://www.hwcompare.com/9425/radeon-hd-5970-vs-radeon-hd-6970/
I've been running 2 5970s for almost 2 years. I set the Vcore voltage at 1.13V and they are perfectly stable and content at 850 MHz on either Moo or MW. You can clock higher on Collatz of course.
The last time I sent one of them in for a failed fan they returned a 6990 ... no comparison between the 2 cards. They learned a lot from from the 5970 and corrected the heat problems on the 6990! One of the GPUs in the 6990 running at 880 MHz outperforms a 5870 clocked at 950.
Fire$torm
12-05-11, 02:02 PM
Just for the record....
(Link (http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,681912/The-History-of-Multi-GPU-graphics-cards/Knowledge/))
Ati's multi GPU entry in the desktop market was the Rage Fury Maxx in 1999...
I've been running 2 5970s for almost 2 years. I set the Vcore voltage at 1.13V and they are perfectly stable and content at 850 MHz on either Moo or MW. You can clock higher on Collatz of course.
The last time I sent one of them in for a failed fan they returned a 6990 ... no comparison between the 2 cards. They learned a lot from from the 5970 and corrected the heat problems on the 6990! One of the GPUs in the 6990 running at 880 MHz outperforms a 5870 clocked at 950.
Yeah it's gotta be the User, what would any of us know about Video Cards ... :-B
EDIT: For the Record the closer I get to 850 with the 1 Card the slower it run's, 800 seems to be about the max time reduction for it & anything over that just adds time to the Wu's. Not over heating that I can see & have tried up to 1.75 Volts with the card but only running 1.25 right now @ 850 & the card is 4-5 mins slower than the other Card running @ 850 & 1.0 Volts ... Both Box's have the same Motherboard, CPU & the same amount & Type of Memory, PSU's are the same too ...
Yeah it's gotta be the User, what would any of us know about Video Cards ... :-B
Steve, I wasn't making a comment on your knowledge of GPUs, I was stating what my experience has been with 5970s. If the card won't get to 850 then there is a problem somewhere ... either the card is defective -or- possibly you need to run the benchmark on that machine and see if it shows "core 0' as the fastest since that is what the automatic selection is choosing for that machine. I had 2 identical machines (dual Xeon servers) that I started running my 5970s in. On 1 machine Moo was fastest on Core 0 and on the other machine it liked Core 3. They both produced the same credits but required a different "core" setting.
My experience with 5970s involves 6 cards. The original 2 failed and were replaced, which eventually failed and were replaced, which eventually failed! The last time XFX replaced 1 with a 6990. I haven't sent in the other 5970 yet but it has also failed. All failures have either been the fan crapping out or GPU 0 throwing artifacts and slowing down where even clocking at 700 wasn't reliable.
On heating ... whatever engineer did the vapor chamber design on the refernce design cost AMD and the vendors BIG bucks. The VRMs for GPU0 are NOT under the vapor chamber and run extremely hot. Those are what limits the OC ability of the card. The temperatures that need to be monitored (GPU-Z) are not the "GPU" temp but the bottom 4 that are shown down at the bottom which are the VRM temps. On GPU 0, the card may be report the GPU temp as 75C but the VRM on GPU 0 may be pushing well over 100C. At 120C the card goes into a self protection mode and starts slowing down the clock.
If the GPU 0 graphics chip starts crapping out you will usually see it in the current being drawn (GPU-Z). Running Moo/MW at 850-900 MHz the chip should draw around 65A but if the chip is having trouble then you will see currents in the 90-95A range. A standard 5870 also draws around 65A when running at 900 MHz.
BTW, the 5970 is NOT two 5850 chips even though they state it is like a dual 5850. According to an AMD interview when the card 1st came out it was designed to be a dual 5870 and it uses the same chips. The problem according to AMD was that when clocked to 5870 levels it exceeded the power specs for a single PCIe slot. It exceeded BOTH the total power spec (300W) and the power required from the MB (75W). That is why the refernce design came out with something like 1.0V on the Vcore ... that limited the power draw to keep it within the PCIe specification. Prior to introduction AMD put out a program (that got pulled before introduction) that allowed the user to raise the Vcore and memory voltages above the stock level. Most vendor did suppy that utility with their cards ... XFX called their version of the program Overvolt.
The bottom line is with the experience I've had with my 5970s I had decided that I would NEVER purchase another dual card. With what I've seen with the 6990 it would be stupid to not purchase another. They have totally fixed the problems that I saw in my XFX 5970s.
Yeah I know, was just being my sometimes sarcastic self ... :D
My best option is to run the Piss outta both of them & if & when they go bad hope to get 6990's back, Sparkle did that on some 460's I sent into them for bad fans. They replaced all 4 460 Cards with 3 470's & a 480 ... :cool: ... I can't really complain since the Cards ended up only costing me $200 apiece ... :D :D
spingadus
12-05-11, 06:34 PM
Lol, reading this thread has educated me a bit on ati/amd cards. I've always gone with nvidia for no objective reason (I love my gtx 590!). Well, there was that old ati x300 that died because the fan melted...
I'm also still happy with my 6970, which is currently giving me about 350k at Moo!
My best option is to run the Piss outta both of them
Hmmmm ... that may have something to do with why I went through 6 of them in about 19 months :))
BTW, for those that don't know, the 5850 is a "brain dead" 5870. It isn't as some assume a binned low performance 5870 chip. It IS a 5870 chip that has had 1 bank of the processors disabled.
If you use something like MSI AB and raise the voltage to 1.16V (the same as a stock 5870) then you can clock it up to 950 MHz just like a 5870. Did that on 2 of them for a couple of years until the fans finally crapped out.
Philadelphia
12-05-11, 09:46 PM
Am I pushing the 5870 too much here?
5870 CCC Settings (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s138/danmartinaz/?action=view¤t=CCCStats.jpg)
John P. Myers
12-05-11, 09:53 PM
Am I pushing the 5870 too much here?
5870 CCC Settings (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s138/danmartinaz/?action=view¤t=CCCStats.jpg)
imo, no. I ran my 5870 at 984MHz during the first BOINC Pentathlon. 100% stable and didn't require a voltage tweak, though i know not everyone will get the same results.
After the Pentathlon (which lasts 2 weeks) i backed it down to 950MHz where it ran for over a year. The card still works to this day, though it's at 900MHz because i have yet to vacuum the dust bunnies out of it lol
Am I pushing the 5870 too much here?
5870 CCC Settings (http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s138/danmartinaz/?action=view¤t=CCCStats.jpg)
No that isn't pushing at all. Definitely good to 950 day in and day out.
I would strongly suggest dropping your memory clock down to 425 MHz and it will probably drop your temperature 5C or better. Collatz is the only project that high memory speed helps and since it uses single precision math the temperature doesn't rise with the increased memory clocks.
Philadelphia
12-06-11, 12:17 AM
No that isn't pushing at all. Definitely good to 950 day in and day out.
I would strongly suggest dropping your memory clock down to 425 MHz and it will probably drop your temperature 5C or better. Collatz is the only project that high memory speed helps and since it uses single precision math the temperature doesn't rise with the increased memory clocks.
Hmmmm, tried to move the slider on the memory clocks, and the lowest it would go was 1000. Another way to do it?
Fire$torm
12-06-11, 01:16 AM
Hmmmm, tried to move the slider on the memory clocks, and the lowest it would go was 1000. Another way to do it?
It should go much lower. Try the following....
Reboot into safe made (by tapping F8 key towards the end of POST test, before the Windows Logo appears) and log in. This will reset all Windows boot cache settings.
Reboot and log in. Shut down BOINC Manager. If you are using 3rd party OC utility like Afterburner shut it down also. Now try adjusting Mem clock.
Well I sold 2 of the 5970's a few days ago & a 470 yesterday & a 570 today for a total of $1400 v the $1200 for the 4 5970's I ordered so I've more than made up for the 2 5970's I've kept with about $150 spare change to boot after Shipping charges ... :o)
I think the CCC only allows you to go so low, not near as low as the MSI Afterburner lets you go ...
Philadelphia
12-06-11, 06:59 AM
I think the CCC only allows you to go so low, not near as low as the MSI Afterburner lets you go ...
That is the case on mine, it has 100 on the far left side, but when I slide the adjustment tab, it only goes to 1,000 so I guess that will have to do.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s138/danmartinaz/cccStats_1.jpg
That is a function of CCC. You can install MSI AB and enable the "Unofficial overclocking" in the .cfg file, put in the EULA line, and then you will have complete control. If you do this you need to disable CCC Overdrive before you launch MSI.
Mike029
12-06-11, 10:50 AM
Well I sold 2 of the 5970's a few days ago & a 470 yesterday & a 570 today for a total of $1400 v the $1200 for the 4 5970's I ordered so I've more than made up for the 2 5970's I've kept with about $150 spare change to boot after Shipping charges ... :o)
Great job. I can see some upgrades in you future.;)
Great job. I can see some upgrades in you future.;)
Well not for awhile anyway, maybe some 1'st or 2'nd Quarter next year. Still totally confused what I want to continue to do in/with BOINC ... :-??
Well not for awhile anyway, maybe some 1'st or 2'nd Quarter next year. Still totally confused what I want to continue to do in/with BOINC ... :-??
Uh...ermmm...ahh...there's going to be an admin position on a team called SETI.USA in March that yours truly will be stepping down from... :D ;) hint...nudge...wink. :D :-" =:)
Philadelphia
12-06-11, 06:31 PM
That is a function of CCC. You can install MSI AB and enable the "Unofficial overclocking" in the .cfg file, put in the EULA line, and then you will have complete control. If you do this you need to disable CCC Overdrive before you launch MSI.
I'll give that a go. I'm glad you mentioned to disable the overdrive :)
Ordered ac XFX HD 6990 so I can compare the 5970 & 6990 against each other, picked it up for $650 so I got a little off the Regular price anyway. If it seems better I'll sell one of the 5970's to cover some of the cost ...
The second 5970 that was giving me trouble or at least not running as good as the 1'st one seems to have settled down. I'm getting a lot of the MOO Wu's to finish under 14 Min's or a little over 15 Min's anyway running @ 825 Core & 1.075 Volts. Maybe it had to just burn in some ...:-??
Wow, that is awesome! From what Bryan says, they are the bomb. You know, I've been thinking about the issues with the 5970, and I suppose the 5970 was not meant to be used as a cruncher 24/7, they probably thought people would just game on it for a few hours, and shut it off, or at least it would do a lot of idling, etc. So it sounds like they took a lot of the criticisms and made things right with the 6990.:cool:
Mike029
12-07-11, 03:53 PM
Ordered ac XFX HD 6990 so I can compare the 5970 & 6990 against each other, picked it up for $650 so I got a little off the Regular price anyway. If it seems better I'll sell one of the 5970's to cover some of the cost ...
The second 5970 that was giving me trouble or at least not running as good as the 1'st one seems to have settled down. I'm getting a lot of the MOO Wu's to finish under 14 Min's or a little over 15 Min's anyway running @ 825 Core & 1.075 Volts. Maybe it had to just burn in some ...:-??
That's good news.
Yup, even at 4 Per Hr it's over 600k Per Day, I can live with that ... :bz
Fire$torm
12-07-11, 04:39 PM
With the 6xxx series out this might not be the mod of choice but.........
Arctic Cooling Accelero XTREME 5970 VGA Cooler - $75.95 (Link (http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/detail?sArticle=19.?))
Edit: If you go this route I would suggest using Arctic Silver 5 or Antec Formula 5 thermal compound.
My 5970's don't really run that hot 65c-70c is about it, Winter or cooler weather here now so I can control the Temps in the Garage where I have the Box's by opening or closing the Door a little, I also blow some of the warmer air into the house to try & save on heating costs for the house during the winter ... Will have to see how hot the 6990 run's, if to hot may have to get something like that ...
Philadelphia
12-07-11, 06:12 PM
That is some serious fanning, I think I could feel my hair moving. 3:-O
I know a guy who bought one of the those fan coolers for his 5970 and he loved it. That is until he added a 2nd high end card to the case and things started getting pretty warm. That cooler doesn't vent out of the back, it dumps all the heat from the 5970 into the case. He went back to stock cooling on the 5970.
Your results may vary :))
I had 4 GTX 460 Sparkle Calibre's with those types of fans, cooled real good until they either quit running or a fan blade broke off ... :| ... But they replaced them with 3 GTX 470's & a GTX 480 so I can't complain ... $-)
Fire$torm
12-08-11, 12:46 PM
I know a guy who bought one of the those fan coolers for his 5970 and he loved it. That is until he added a 2nd high end card to the case and things started getting pretty warm. That cooler doesn't vent out of the back, it dumps all the heat from the 5970 into the case. He went back to stock cooling on the 5970.
Your results may vary :))
Yeah, for that Arctic Cooler you need a case with very good air flow. One with ample exhaust to match the air being pulled into the case. Which has been a real challenge for the majority of cases out there.
Don't know what happened but the problem 5970 that had been running the MOO Wu's in the 14-15 Min Range for the last 2+ Days now has gone back to the 18-19 Min Range again. Probably must be something to do with changing the CPU Usage to 3 & then back to 4 again, still ran the Wu's in the 14-15 Min Range running 3 CPU's but now that I've gone back to 4 CPU usage the Wu's are taking 3-4 Min's longer ... :/ ... Will change back to 3 CPU's if the times don't come down soon & see what happens ...
What % GPU utilization is it showing for each GPU in Afterburner? Try with 3 CPU and then with 4 and see if it makes a difference in the loading. If the GPU is still running at the same clock speed, then the difference in completion times should just be a factor of loading percentage. Obviously as cruncher we want the highest % loading possible, which seems to be 99% on the GPUs.:cool:
Hard to say really, it's all over the place, up down 1 GPU Core Idle then both running ... It was okay until I changed to 3 CPU Cores running then back to 4 running again ...
Huh. Something is definitely not right. That's what it looks like on Kat's rig with the crossfired 4870s if I don't reserve 2 cores. Try dropping CPU cores in BOINC until the GPU % utilization is pegged at 99% solid on both of them. Then look at your times. If the times go down like they should, then it is not a GPU problem, but something that is bottlenecking the GPUs.
Seems to run the Collatz Wu's okay, thought I'd run some to see if there's a difference in Cores, running @ 900 Core & 1.25v & running all 4 CPU Cores, not the fastest thing but does okay & it's consistent in the run times too as I up the Core Speed ... Maybe it just doesn't like the MOO Wu's, or at least not like to be overclocked running them anyway. I e-mailed Newegg to see what they say about returning it. I can make a decision after Monday next week when the 6990 is due to be delivered ...
100994301 44314108 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 12:39:25 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,528.67 1,526.66 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994299 44314107 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 12:59:45 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,471.64 1,470.72 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994293 44314104 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 13:03:55 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,467.47 1,466.14 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994290 44314103 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 13:23:50 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,442.78 1,441.73 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994289 44314102 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 13:27:57 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,452.30 1,451.20 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994286 44314101 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 13:48:13 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,466.11 1,464.30 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994284 44314100 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 13:52:37 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,436.59 1,435.48 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994280 44314098 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 14:12:56 UTC Completed and validated 1,480.75 1,479.55 3,113.85 collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994278 44314097 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 14:17:04 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,488.77 1,487.70 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994277 44314096 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 14:36:36 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,418.47 1,416.48 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
100994275 44314095 84325 9 Dec 2011 12:12:51 UTC 9 Dec 2011 14:40:42 UTC Completed, waiting for validation 1,415.02 1,414.02 pending collatz v2.09 (ati13ati)
Ah, OK. Yeah, will be interesting to see what they do. I am still waiting for them to decide whether to refund me or see if they can come up with another card from somewhere. I'll let you know what route they do for me, so it may help you decide too.
On a good note - what with your findings while running Collatz, and Philly's problems on moo with (2) 5870s, I am beginning to wonder if the problem isn't Moo! related? Or at least mostly so. I think Collatz is coded very well, and doesn't seem to have a problem, so that is a little telling, isn't it?:confused:
Have the HD 6990 chewing on some MOO Wu's to see what it can do, running @ 880 Core & Stock Voltage ...
Still haven't heard back from Newegg on possibly returning 1 of the HD 5970's, trying to Live Chat with them now ... :rolleyes:
EDIT: Just talked to Newegg, their going to send me a Prepaid Shipping Label & set me up for a Refund, I have 7 Days to ship back if I want too ... :)
Philadelphia
12-12-11, 05:53 PM
Have the HD 6990 chewing on some MOO Wu's to see what it can do, running @ 880 Core & Stock Voltage ...
Still haven't heard back from Newegg on possibly returning 1 of the HD 5970's, trying to Live Chat with them now ... :rolleyes:
EDIT: Just talked to Newegg, their going to send me a Prepaid Shipping Label & set me up for a Refund, I have 7 Days to ship back if I want too ... :)
Might as well push it and see what you can get out of it at this point.
Might as well push it and see what you can get out of it at this point.
Doesn't do any good to push it, the faster I try to run it the slower the Wu's run, it seems to be comfortable around 775 Core & no Voltage increase ... That's about the fastest I can run it or the Screen freezes up if I try to push it any more ...
Philadelphia
12-12-11, 06:06 PM
Doesn't do any good to push it, the faster I try to run it the slower the Wu's run, it seems to be comfortable around 775 Core & no Voltage increase ... That's about the fastest I can run it or the Screen freezes up if I try to push it any more ...
Kinda like, the faster I work, the less I get done.
Yeah, I dunno...I'd be tempted to return it. They just sent me an email saying they were changing my RMA from "replace" to "Refund" status, and that I should expect my money back on my card within 5 business days.
Thing is, you got one card out of the bunch that was good - probably one you sold was good too, I'll bet they are like 50/50 on the HD5970 cards after seeing what we've all went through on them now. So...I'd be real tempted to return it for a full refund, unless you think it is worth it to keep it.
Philadelphia
12-12-11, 06:52 PM
Yeah, I dunno...I'd be tempted to return it. They just sent me an email saying they were changing my RMA from "replace" to "Refund" status, and that I should expect my money back on my card within 5 business days.
Thing is, you got one card out of the bunch that was good - probably one you sold was good too, I'll bet they are like 50/50 on the HD5970 cards after seeing what we've all went through on them now. So...I'd be real tempted to return it for a full refund, unless you think it is worth it to keep it.
I can guarantee that I won't be looking for any used 5970's.
I can guarantee that I won't be looking for any used 5970's.
Yeah, Bryan warned me NOT to get a used one. I was hoping the new ones would be alright, but apparently it's a real crapshoot.
I can guarantee that I won't be looking for any used 5970's.
Me neither, probably will return the 1 & keep the one that run's good. Trying a few things first & if those don't work out I'll ship it out Wed or Thur ... The 6990 seems to be running okay so far, Times in the 14-15 Min Range with a few sub 14's ... So with the 2 I sold the 1 I'll keep will only cost me $100, can't kick about that ...
Philadelphia
12-12-11, 07:45 PM
Me neither, probably will return the 1 & keep the one that run's good. Trying a few things first & if those don't work out I'll ship it out Wed or Thur ... The 6990 seems to be running okay so far, Times in the 14-15 Min Range with a few sub 14's ... So with the 2 I sold the 1 I'll keep will only cost me $100, can't kick about that ...
Not at all, that's actually a great deal.
I keep looking on craigslist for 5870's but none posted, I must have caught them when the stars were aligned. For both the 1mg and 2mg I paid a total of 230.00.
If I do find some, I guess I'll have to build something for them, I don't currently have anything to put them in.
Decided to just keep the extra 5970 & new 6990 for now, put them both up for sale on my Amazon Account & if they sell fine if not I'll use them till they possibly do. I can make money by selling the 5970 rather than return it & the 6990 was going to cost me too much to return with restocking fee & shipping fees so I think I can sell it & possibly break even on it anyway ...
Sold another 5970, so the 5970 I have now was Free :D plus a little money in my pocket for the 3 I did sell, going to try & sell the 4'th one too I think, just not happy with the performance of them. That plus with the new ATI Cards coming out in a month or 2 I'd rather wait & see what their like. If it don't sell no big deal sinc it's Free anyway ... :cool:
Fire$torm
12-15-11, 05:20 AM
Sold another 5970, so the 5970 I have now was Free :D plus a little money in my pocket for the 3 I did sell, going to try & sell the 4'th one too I think, just not happy with the performance of them. That plus with the new ATI Cards coming out in a month or 2 I'd rather wait & see what their like. If it don't sell no big deal sinc it's Free anyway ... :cool:
Holly Toledo, that is just crazy.... So when you sell the last one its all profit. >:)
Holly Toledo, that is just crazy.... So when you sell the last one its all profit. >:)
Yup, I'll just look at the Profits from the 5970's as helping to pay for the 6990 I bought ...
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