Help with Moo

[Maxwell]

So, I'm running Moo for the first time in MONTHS. Six or so. And I need help getting things set up, since I haven't been monitoring how to get stuff going...

I've got 2x5970s set up on Moo, running 10.10. Win7x64. I've got ProLasso running to dedicate a full core to Moo. Boinc 6.10.58. All 4 GPUs OC'ed to 800MHz.

What can I do do make it go faster/more reliable? Can anyone give me some hints? I've been off this for more than 7 months, and a cursory glance of the boards there seems to indicate things have changed, but I don't know what to tweak...

[STE\/E]

I don't know abut others but I'm not doing anything special running a 5870 & 6990 there ...

[Mike029]

Same here, your oc looks good. The only thing you may want to try is running the program Fire. recommended to identify the fastest core and utilize that for Moo.

[Bryan]

Max I'm not doing anything special on either of those to get them going.

As mentioned, it is IMPERATIVE that you select the correct CORE in your preferences. That will take you from pathetic credits to great credits.

If you go to the project site message boards: General Issues/Preferences/benchmarks .... you can find how to run the benchmark to see which core is fastest on your machine.

C:\Users\All Users\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench

Stick that in a DOS prompt and run it with BOINC turned off. It will tell you what is the fastest.

[STE\/E]

As mentioned, it is IMPERATIVE that you select the correct CORE in your preferences. That will take you from pathetic credits to great credits.

If you go to the project site message boards: General Issues/Preferences/benchmarks .... you can find how to run the benchmark to see which core is fastest on your machine.

C:\Users\All Users\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench

Stick that in a DOS prompt and run it with BOINC turned off. It will tell you what is the fastest.

That still hass never worked for me on any of my Box's ... :P .. Just tried it again & got:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\PoorBoy>G:\Users\All Users\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x8
6-stream.exe" -bench
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Users\PoorBoy>

[Maxwell]

Thanks, Bryan! I knew I was forgetting something...

And Ste\/e, do you have your BOINC installed to the default directory? I had to alter some paths to make things go right...

[STE\/E]

Thanks, Bryan! I knew I was forgetting something...

And Ste\/e, do you have your BOINC installed to the default directory? I had to alter some paths to make things go right...

No not on any of my Box's, but I've tried many different paths & none work on any of the Box's ...

[Maxwell]

No not on any of my Box's, but I've tried many different paths & none work on any of the Box's ...
Well then. I suggest you poop on any cows you come across today in protest of this Moo thing not working. :cool:

[Slicker]

That still hass never worked for me on any of my Box's ... :P .. Just tried it again & got:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\PoorBoy>G:\Users\All Users\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x8
6-stream.exe" -bench
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Users\PoorBoy>


Some things to check...

If running Vista or Windows 7, I would expect your BOINC data folder to be under C:\ProgramData so the command would be:

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe -bench

Note that no quotes are needed because there are no spaces in any of the folder or file names. But, if you want to use quotes, make sure you have them at both ends. Your example also uses G: as the drive letter which seems strange and has no opening double quote so Windows is looking for G:\Users\All instead of the moo wrapper executable.

e.g.

"C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench

[Fire$torm]

@Ste\/e: Maybe this will help....

To see the extended command list which includes "Open command window here" you must press and hold Ctrl and Shift keys and then right-click the moowrap.net folder

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[Bryan]

In your Moo BOINC project folder there are 2 executables. 1 is the stream that was my post that you launch with -bench and the other is the GPU program. I don't know if both are need but I think so.

So, copy those files to ANY directory you can get to from the command prompt and then launch the with stream in the name

dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe -bench


There shouldn't be ANY quotes in the command line. If the example I gave originally had them in it then it came from copy/pasting something from the Moo website!

[Maxwell]

Which is weird, because I used the quotes and it worked for me...

[Fire$torm]

Which is weird, because I used the quotes and it worked for me...

Quotes that bracket the file path are valid and sometimes even necessary. Example: c:\program files\my apps\xyz.exe would need front and back quotes when used on the command line. This is because the command shell, the non-GUI part of windows will interpret the first space it encounters as an end of line. And you get the error message 'c:\program' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. It is a holdover from M$ DOS. Actually some of the original M$-DOS kernel code might still exist in the Win7 kernel.

[STE\/E]

Some things to check...

If running Vista or Windows 7, I would expect your BOINC data folder to be under C:\ProgramData so the command would be:

C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe -bench

Note that no quotes are needed because there are no spaces in any of the folder or file names. But, if you want to use quotes, make sure you have them at both ends. Your example also uses G: as the drive letter which seems strange and has no opening double quote so Windows is looking for G:\Users\All instead of the moo wrapper executable.

e.g.

"C:\ProgramData\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench

If I remember I'll try that after the WCG Challenge is over, I probably did use the " as I just copied & pasted then modified the command to the proper directories. G:\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench is the actual cmd I used on the Box I was trying it on as G:\ is the Partition\Drive the BOINC Directory is located on, I never install BOINC in the normal place but on a Partition of it's own & with it's own Page File System. By doing that if the OS messes up & I have to reinstall the OS I don't lose the BOINC Wu's that I already have running or Cached ... :)

All my OS's are Win XP Pro 64-Bit, that may have something to do with the Command not working either but will try it without the " in the Command when I get around to it ...

[STE\/E]

Tried it without the " in the Command & Got:

Microsoft Windows [Version 5.2.3790]
(C) Copyright 1985-2003 Microsoft Corp.

D:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>G:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\moowrap.
net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe -bench
'G:\Program' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

D:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

[Fire$torm]

Wait a sec. Is that directory on a remote system, ala mapped drive?

Also from the command line you need both start and end quote marks of the full file path. So everything except the -bench is included.

"G:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\moowrap.net\dnetc518-win32-x86-stream.exe" -bench

But the command must be run from the system you want to benchmark.

[STE\/E]

I ran the command from the Box it's self not from a remote System, make up my mind, don't use the " or use the " ... b-( :o);)

[STE\/E]

Finally got it to work using the " on both ends :o now which Core do I trey to use beside AUTO Select for that Box to see if it runs the MOO Wu's faster ...

dnetc v2.9109-518-GTR-10092920 for ATI Stream on Win32 (WindowsNT 5.2).
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[Jan 19 14:43:25 UTC] RC5-72: using core #0 (IL 4-pipe c).
[Jan 19 14:43:29 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #0 (IL 4-pipe c)
0.00:00:02.12 [2,136,538,701 keys/sec]
[Jan 19 14:43:29 UTC] RC5-72: using core #1 (IL 4-pipe c alt).
[Jan 19 14:43:35 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #1 (IL 4-pipe c alt)
0.00:00:03.64 [1,222,815,781 keys/sec]
[Jan 19 14:43:35 UTC] RC5-72: using core #2 (IL 4-pipe 2 threads).
[Jan 19 14:43:41 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #2 (IL 4-pipe 2 threads)
0.00:00:02.70 [1,668,016,149 keys/sec]
[Jan 19 14:43:41 UTC] RC5-72: using core #3 (IL 4-pipe cs-1).
[Jan 19 14:43:45 UTC] RC5-72: Benchmark for core #3 (IL 4-pipe cs-1)
0.00:00:02.15 [2,094,409,904 keys/sec]
[Jan 19 14:43:45 UTC] RC5-72 benchmark summary :
Default core : #0 (IL 4-pipe c)
Fastest core : #0 (IL 4-pipe c)

[Bryan]

You'd use core 0 on that machine and I think that is the default. My machines either benchmark best on either 0 (2 computers) and the other 2 machines like core 3. So I set up a different location for each core setting. Selecting the core (especially if it is 3) makes a tremendous difference in throughput.

[STE\/E]

Sooooooooo I don't have to do anything on that Box then ? Just leave it on Auto Select ?

[Fire$torm]

Sooooooooo I don't have to do anything on that Box then ? Just leave it on Auto Select ?

Affirmative.