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Crazybob
10-19-12, 03:24 PM
It's here. Big brother is deffinitely watching.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/copyright-alert-system/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5
Fire$torm
10-19-12, 03:33 PM
It's here. Big brother is deffinitely watching.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/copyright-alert-system/index.html?hpt=hp_bn5

Oh, they have been doing the notify thing for a several months now....
Duke of Buckingham
10-19-12, 03:37 PM
Oh, they have been doing the notify thing for a several months now....

Never seen nothing from them and I post a lot. In what cases they act?
trigggl
10-19-12, 04:27 PM
No problem, just masquerade the address of the last person that tried to hack into your network. If you figure out how to do that, let me know.
Fire$torm
10-19-12, 05:45 PM
Never seen nothing from them and I post a lot. In what cases they act?

The article is talking about Torrent downloading. The only effective way to get round their security is to use a non-US proxy. But good ones are becoming scarce. Hollywood wants total control of the dissemination of information and they are achieving that goal.

Example: Amazon was selling works of Shakespeare (Public Domain Licensing) but because it was distributed by them , they had copy-protected the eBooks. This meant that even though the books are "owned" by the public, you could not share them with anyone. This kind of crap goes on every day but you will never hear of it in "National Media" because those who own the media )Radio, TV, Cable) also own the entertainment distribution services.

OK back on track...

So Duke, because you live outside of the U.S. this article does not apply to you... yet.
pinhodecarlos
10-19-12, 06:29 PM
Here the ISP providers now use "traffic shaping" for P2P downloading. For certain periods of the day they cut the bandwidth.
kaptainkarl1
10-19-12, 10:45 PM
Does Porn count?

On a more serious note if you download portions of content not the whole work is that bad?

How do they figure out that a person is downloading a torrent? It is coming from all over the place in pieces. And if one seeds only portions go out as well.

Bastards are probably using the systems put in place after 911 to watch as well...
Fire$torm
10-20-12, 02:32 AM
Does Porn count?

On a more serious note if you download portions of content not the whole work is that bad?

How do they figure out that a person is downloading a torrent? It is coming from all over the place in pieces. And if one seeds only portions go out as well.

Bastards are probably using the systems put in place after 911 to watch as well...

Basically they use the same torrent clients as everyone else, with a few mods added. All torrent clients list the IP addresses of the users it connects to on a per-torrent basis. So most of the work is already done.

To answer your second question, no they no longer wait until all files in the torrent are complete. Though legally speaking, you are not in possession of copyrighted material until the file(s) is complete, Hollywood doesn't give a damn. And law enforcement is, for the moment, looking the other way.
kaptainkarl1
10-21-12, 11:29 AM
Couldn't you just connect through an anonymizer or some such proxy server?
I miss the good old days when the government protected us from the corporations. Now they protect the corporations from us.
Fire$torm
10-21-12, 03:25 PM
Couldn't you just connect through an anonymizer or some such proxy server?
I miss the good old days when the government protected us from the corporations. Now they protect the corporations from us.

Yes you can but the good ones overseas are getting scarce. They are being harassed as much as the Pirate Bay & Demonoid are. Oh forgot, Demonoid is already gone. They were shut down two months ago and a warrant is out for the owner who lives in Mexico. So now Hollywood has international reach.... Its a sad sad time.