Bye ByeTwinkies

[STE\/E]

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[John P. Myers]

°There are 17 Hostess bakeries across the country cranking out 500 million Twinkies every year. That comes out to be about 1,000 Twinkies a minute or 16 per second.
°It takes 40,000 miles of plastic wrap a year to package them.
°At 150 Calories apiece, all those Twinkies have the energy equivalent to nearly 51,500 barrels of crude oil.
°Twinkies have made appearances in countless Hollywood movies, like Ghostbusters, Grease, and Die Hard.
° Lewis Browning, an 89-year-old retired milk-truck driver is the undisputed "Twinkie King of the World" for eating at least one Twinkie every day for 64 years. By rough calculation, he has eaten more than 22,000 Twinkies so far.
°The White House, suggested by Bill Clinton, put a Twinkie in their time capsule for the new millennium, as “an object of enduring American symbolism.”
°In 2005 alone, Americans spent $47 million on Twinkies.
°Residents of Chicago eat more Twinkies per capita than anywhere else, earning them the title of "Twinkie Capital of the World."
°It takes 45 seconds to explode a Twinkie in a microwave. It takes only 1 second for your wife to get mad over the mess you've made by doing so.

We're going to miss you, Hostess :((

[zombie67]

18,000 jobs gone.

[STE\/E]

18,000 jobs gone.

From what the News was reporting last night some of the workers said they'd rather be on Unemployment, they should have been careful on what they wished for ... :rolleyes:

I think somebody will take over the Company or the rights to making the Hostess Products, but the workers that were there now may not be asked back ...

[zombie67]

Striking is a gamble. Sometimes you loose. And even when you win, you can still loose, if you force management into a crazy contract (hello GM).

[STE\/E]

I know, I worked at Buick Motor Division for 37 Years, you wouldn't believe the Crap the Union would pull to get their way or their friends a job ...

[GregK]

never thought id see the day id better run to the store for one last one! maybe ebay has some for 10$ a piece?

[trigggl]

I can see it now. Hostess is too big to fail. It's time for a Twinkie bailout.

[Fire$torm]

The original concept of a labor union had merits but it was corrupted to to point that its been killing America for decades. 99.9% of the time you will not get rich working for someone else. Why so many thought otherwise is beyond me. Too bad those 18,500 were brain dead stupid enough to listen to their union reps in this economy. Common sense folks, where has it gone.....?

[STE\/E]

I can see it now. Hostess is too big to fail. It's time for a Twinkie bailout.

*-:) ... Great Idea ... :D

[Fire$torm]

=)) :)) =))

[Duke of Buckingham]

Not my fault, I am doing my best to save the factory.

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[Slicker]

I know, I worked at Buick Motor Division for 37 Years, you wouldn't believe the Crap the Union would pull to get their way or their friends a job ...

And the rest of the people in Michigan have to pay as well since the unions required auto makers to give top of the line packages and health care knew it and cranked up the rates. I don't know about now, but a few years ago Michican had some of the highest medical costs in the entire country. Thanks, unions. You are doing almost as good a job as the politicians at taking money out of everyone's pockets.

An guy interviewed today on the a.m. new shows said that chances are a company would buy out the brands and maybe even some of the equipment. He was pretty certain that it would be moved to a state where the unions would no longer be an issue, so that means at least 100 miles away from anywhere they were being made. So, unless people are planning to move, the jobs will go to others.

[Duke of Buckingham]

This is the "Diminishing returns" or "Diminishing marginal returns" theory, all political associations or parties as all churches or unions make the same "mistake".

As the function (or utility) decreases the number of employes tends to increase exponentially.

The law of diminishing returns (also law of diminishing marginal returns or law of increasing relative cost) states that in all productive processes, adding more of one factor of production, while holding all others constant ("ceteris paribus"), will at some point yield lower per-unit returns. The law of diminishing returns does not imply that adding more of a factor will decrease the total production, a condition known as negative returns, though in fact this is common.

That is a theory but can be seen as a fact on all over the world and it is at least in the part of the world I know, that is why the relation between economics and politics is so difficult and so they still do always the same.

Isaac Asimov gave several examples and used that law mainly in Foundation, Foundation and Empire, Second Foundation, Foundation's Edge, Foundation and Earth, Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation but the law is from Johann Heinrich von Thünen, Turgot, James Steuart, Thomas Malthus and David Ricardo mainly.

They are all good readings but Isaac Asimov is more popular.;)

[Fire$torm]

There is hope!!!

Hostess puts off liquidation, agrees to mediation (Link (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-twinkies-hostess-union-mediation-20121119,0,5350938.story))

[Slicker]

There is hope!!!

Hostess puts off liquidation, agrees to mediation (Link (http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-twinkies-hostess-union-mediation-20121119,0,5350938.story))

Not sure whether that will work. Some union members were HAPPY to go on unemployment with the logic that if they weren't gong to get paid what they thought they deserved, then it would be better not to have a job. So, now you and I get to pay for their union mistakes via unemployment checks from our taxes. With all the labor laws now, do we really still need unions?

[trigggl]

Not sure whether that will work. Some union members were HAPPY to go on unemployment with the logic that if they weren't gong to get paid what they thought they deserved, then it would be better not to have a job. So, now you and I get to pay for their union mistakes via unemployment checks from our taxes. With all the labor laws now, do we really still need unions?

Unions might be a good idea in Arkansas which is a "right to work" state, though the jobs/benefits at the company I work for are good without them. For those keeping score at home, right to work means they can fire you at any time for any reason. I'm not sure why they call it "right to work".

[STE\/E]

Unions might be a good idea in Arkansas which is a "right to work" state, though the jobs/benefits at the company I work for are good without them. For those keeping score at home, right to work means they can fire you at any time for any reason. I'm not sure why they call it "right to work".

That's 1 thing the Unions are good for anyway, you can work your butt off & some relative of somebody in the company can sit on the butts doing nothing & you'll be gone before they are if somebody needs to go ... :rolleyes: ... At least with the Union your Seniority can protect you. Of course that can work the other way too, once you get the seniority the Company can't get rid of you if you decide to sit around on your butt too ...

[trigggl]

Unions might be a good idea in Arkansas which is a "right to work" state, though the jobs/benefits at the company I work for are good without them. For those keeping score at home, right to work means they can fire you at any time for any reason. I'm not sure why they call it "right to work".


That's 1 thing the Unions are good for anyway, you can work your butt off & some relative of somebody in the company can sit on the butts doing nothing & you'll be gone before they are if somebody needs to go ... :rolleyes: ... At least with the Union your Seniority can protect you. Of course that can work the other way too, once you get the seniority the Company can't get rid of you if you decide to sit around on your butt too ...

Just read the "Right to Work" Arkansas Law (http://www.nrtw.org/c/arrtwlaw.htm). It's actually pretty cool. I can choose whether to be in a union or not to work for a company. For instance, I can't be forced to join the worthless UPS and rental car jockey unions like I had to in Missouri.

Funny that most of the forced unionism states are those that typically vote Democrat.

[zombie67]

In many (all?) states, they can still force you to pay union dues, even if you don't join the union. The reasoning is that you benefit from the collective bargaining, even if you are not a union member. Legally, this applies to only the portion of the dues that do not go to political activities, in theory. But in practice, getting back that portion of the dues is usually extremely difficult for various reasons (usually obfuscation, intimidation, thuggery).

[Fire$torm]

@Z: In practice that doesn't happen, at least in Illinois, which has some sort of "Right to work" law. I've had both union and non-union jobs, most being non-union. I used to be a field service tech for a third party vender of PBX (business phone system) and PC based voice mail solutions. Never had to worry about being made to pay telecom union dues for anything. And though it was a non-union shop, we still enjoyed the pay scale and most benefits of the union guys. I've also worked many retail jobs and all except one were the exact opposite of fair pay for work done. I had one job were I was fired and then rehired 30 minutes later, but at a reduced hourly wage.... :mad:

[John P. Myers]

The negotiation talks have failed! The bankruptcy hearing is set for tomorrow morning at 11 AM

[Duke of Buckingham]

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