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Clank [MM]
12-17-13, 11:00 PM
A simple check at Boincstats shows an awful lot of red dots. So lets say 30 projects are running. My RAC wanders around 110 - 160 out of 2,711,538. Neither of these numbers can be right, otherwise you would see 100,000 crunchers at each project. I'm at one now that has 170. So my question is how many actual crunchers are there? It's not 2.7 mil, 40k? 50k? How low is the actual number? Anybody have some thoughts on this. How many a year ago? How fast are we sliding? Keep it serious, I'd like to know what info is out there.

shiva
12-18-13, 07:29 AM
I think it is like some judges here in the states, you are there for life, but in this case even death does not remove you as a cruncher. It also means that you signed up doesn't mean you ever crunched a credit. The number of active crunchers have to be way lower than that number.

zombie67
12-18-13, 10:47 AM
I am sure that Bok would be able to tell us how many CPID's have earned credits over (say) the last 30 days.

Bok
12-18-13, 11:06 AM
It might not be completely accurate given split cpid's and such, but a quick count of users with activity in the last 28 days shows 254,231

zombie67
12-18-13, 12:02 PM
Thanks Bok!

Duke of Buckingham
12-18-13, 01:04 PM
I am out of crunching since April and without input credit since then, except for this last week maybe, that doesnt mean that I died or stopped crunching, it is a temporary situation, maybe the same is happening to other crunchers.

I have seen along this time crunchers that stopped for long and then come back as I have seen people that download Boinc inscribe in one project and never crunch, this is more usual with Seti maybe because Seti is usually out for short periods.

At least half of the new crunchers come to crunch Seti but there are other reasons, I think one year of sabattic time would be reasonable for any personal problems that RL sometimes brings.

Slicker
12-18-13, 02:39 PM
Looking at our team on BOINCStats, less than 1300 users of the 17,000 users on the team had credit this week and 2042 team members had credit this month.
That means that in the past month, we have had at almost 700 team members who did nothing at all this week! It looks like many of them crunched a single WU this month or crunched for just a few days.

Given that a current desktop/laptop will get > 1K per day, it looks like less that 33% of the team members crunched for more than a month -- ever. So, if 1 in 3 quit after less than a month of crunching, how do we convince them to stick with it?

STE\/E
12-18-13, 02:45 PM
Looking at our team on BOINCStats, less than 1300 users of the 17,000 users on the team had credit this week and 2042 team members had credit this month.
That means that in the past month, we have had at almost 700 team members who did nothing at all this week! It looks like many of them crunched a single WU this month or crunched for just a few days.

Given that a current desktop/laptop will get > 1K per day, it looks like less that 33% of the team members crunched for more than a month -- ever. So, if 1 in 3 quit after less than a month of crunching, how do we convince them to stick with it?

It befuddles my mind on your rationality, wouldn't way more than 700 Team Members not have done nothing given your figures ???

Clank [MM]
12-18-13, 02:57 PM
I see it, that is a huge difference comparing 1 month to 1 week. It's well worth digging a little deeper to see what caused the difference. Bok, everyone, thanks for the input, some of this info might be worth digging into.

Bok
12-18-13, 03:27 PM
For this team only, I get 2097 distinct CPID's who have credit in the last 28 days and 1808 who have credit in the last 7 days.

Long running wu's (PrimeGrid or RNAWorld spring to mind) could be the cause of some of that difference I suppose.

Fire$torm
12-18-13, 03:30 PM
A small part of the puzzle may lie in the fact that some, if not many, members are or have become seasonal. That is to say they crunch only at certain times of the year. Take for example, a grammar/high school student. During the school season, students are using their computers (many or most are laptops) for studies, and later they may enjoy some after study entertainment like gaming. Not much if any crunching will get done. During the summer is when many of these students may leave their systems on and idle long enough for BOINC to kick in. After all, when was the last time you say anyone under the age of 21 dragging around a laptop? It's all about the latest smart phone and/or tablet.

John P. Myers
12-18-13, 06:44 PM
Long running wu's (PrimeGrid or RNAWorld spring to mind) could be the cause of some of that difference I suppose.

Yes. What happens with alot of the low end of the "set and forget" crowd is they install BOINC, pick a project and let it crunch. However they never change the default BOINC settings, and most likely never get any farther than the basic viewer, meaning if they have a GPU, it's never used and their CPU is only used when their computer is idle. But guess what? They turn their computer off when they're not using it, making the available idle time that BOINC actually gets to do anything extremely minimal. Even a 2hr WU could end up taking months with these habits.