ATI OpenCL apps to intel hd graphics?

[MindCrime]

I thought I crossed a thread a while back about someone running an ati app on their intel igpu hd 4000. I've had no luck tracking it down again, but I felt like it was done via app_config or one of the other .xml files. I figured this was plausible as there are projects with ati openCL 1.2 support but none for intel graphics. Can something be done on our end to trick or port,translate to run on intel opencl 1.2 capable gpus?

[zombie67]

http://www.setiusa.us/showthread.php?4864-Projects-that-support-Intel-HD-GPU-crunching

[MindCrime]

Primegrid was the project I was really hoping/thinking was possible. So please pardon my inexperience I created an app_info.xml in /projects/www.primegrid.com with the following pasted in:


<app_info>
<app>
<name>pps_sr2sieve</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>pps_sr2sieve</app_name>
<version_num>139</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>1.00</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>opencl_intel_100</plan_class>
<cmdline></cmdline>
<coproc>
<type>intel_gpu</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>pps_sr2sieve</app_name>
<version_num>139</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<file_ref>
<file_name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

I didn't edit anything in it, i then restarted BOINC and the event log shows this:

4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | File referenced in app_info.xml does not exist: primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] State file error: missing application file primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] State file error: missing application file primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] No application found for task: windows_intelx86 139 cudaPPSsieve; discarding
4/25/2014 2:08:18 PM | PrimeGrid | [error] State file error: result pps_sr2sieve_73212203_1 not found for task

currently the files in the primegrid folder:
app_info.xml
primegrid_slideshow_00.png
slideshow_gcwsieve_00
slideshow_llrCUL_00
slideshow_llrTPS_00
slideshow_llrWOO_00
slideshow_primegen_00
slideshow_psp_sr2sieve_00
stat_icon
stat_primegrid.png
TRP_20131229.sieveinput
TRP_20131010.sieveinput
primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe <-manually downloaded

any input would be helpful at this point

Edit:I have ati/opencl apps selected in primegrid preferences along with cuda.

[MindCrime]

Okay so i found the app executable here (http://boinc.com.ua/projects/www.primegrid.com/primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsie ve.exe) and had to restart boinc a couple times and the event log error went away...waiting for work i guess. I also used your poem setup...again waiting for work.

[zombie67]

Ah, PG. Yes, I built one a while back. See here:

http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=5136

[MindCrime]

So in theory with an appropriately configured app_info.xml my boinc client will try to get work for the ATI versions and run them on my hd 4000. What i did in the mean time cause I wasn't sure how things worked and to remedy those errors in boinc event log is i found http://boinc.com.ua/projects/ to download the apps, which i hope are the legit apps. now that I have the primegrid app (primegrid_tpsieve_1.39_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsi eve.exe) and poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100 (i hope this is what i need)... this just all sounds too easy.

[MindCrime]

Getting an error from Poem "your app_info.xml file doesn't have a usable version of POEM++"

here is my current poem app_info.xml
<app_info>
<app>
<name>poemcl</name>
<user_friendly_name>POEM++ OpenCL version</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>poemcl</app_name>
<version_num>105</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>opencl_intel_100</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>intel_gpu</type>
<count>.5</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>poemcl</app_name>
<version_num>105</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

do i have to manually download the exe? or is that the wrong version?

[zombie67]

There is no POEM GPU work right now anyway. See here: http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/server_status.php

And yes, if you are going to use an app_info.xml, you will need to manually download all the files needed to run the tasks.

[Shandia]

There is no POEM GPU work right now anyway. See here: http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/server_status.php

And yes, if you are going to use an app_info.xml, you will need to manually download all the files needed to run the tasks.

Thank you zombie for pointing that out. I saw this post and had no answers for MindCrime due to not knowing the project. I went ahead and signed up and got some tasks. Nothing that I downloaded remotely matched the info on his post, much less anyone's post of app_info files from other sites. I did see on one post where they were calling the app_info file old and how people using Boinc 7.0.40 and newer would be better off replacing it with an app_config file. I did notice a difference in the app_config file from the tasks I had and wondered if "poemcl" was a reflection of gpu tasks since the cpu task seem to be "poempp". In other words, for now at least the app_info file can be tucked away for another day. o:-) (I am now one more project richer than I was yesterday)

[MindCrime]

Where do I manually download the applications? the link i mentioned earlier doesn't seem to have the poem app i want.

[Shandia]

I'm totally interested too zombie. :)) Where is the manual download link?? *giggle* According to the site feed, they had a blackout and had to do some other maintenance within the last month. MindCrime....it's possible that the files are just not available at the moment. According to this page, if it was available, they would download automatically. http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/apps.php You may have to just be patient with them until the files are available again. When they do show up, make sure that line <name>poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_10 0</name> just above the <execute> command reads <name>poemcl_1.5_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_100</name> and make sure to adjust/check the version, 1.5....1.3...or whatever....to what you get. (note the space in the 100 in your file.) It should work once the files are available again and the app_info file is double checked. ;)

Ok....I changed the 100 in the line above 3 times manually. Every time I click save, the space is back. So the space may not be present in your actual file. :P

[Slicker]

Where do I manually download the applications? the link i mentioned earlier doesn't seem to have the poem app i want.

[project url]/download

For example:

http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/ -> http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/download

There will likely be a LOT of files so you kind of have to know what you are looking for. That being said. OpenCL is OpenCL. So, it isn't just ATI/AMD that can be used. You should be able to use the nVidia app as well. That being said, it depends upon whether the app was written to be generic or platform specific. I'm lazy, or smart depending upon how you view it, so the Collatz OpenCL apps are all the exact same executable. They just uses the executable name to determine whether to run on nvidia, amd, or intel. Some projects create separate builds of apps for each platform. For those, you can't fake it as they only run for a specific OpenCL platform. Since the PG guys are really bright (and therefore equally lazy) you can probably use any of their opencl apps for intel GPUs if you can figure out how to set up the app_info.

[MindCrime]

Thank you Slicker for all of that, very helpful.