Intel to ship 8 core Haswell-e at end of August

[DrPop]

Looks like we'll finally get some reviews of the new 8 core Haswell-e and the X99 Socket 2011 platform within the next two weeks. :)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/20/intel_haswell_e_to_ship_end_august/

[zombie67]

Sweeeeeeeeet!

[zombie67]

Tick tock...

Edit: Are there any X99 mobos available? Not seeing any on newegg.

[DrPop]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8424/exclusive-asrocks-x99-oc-formula-motherboard-in-pictures

:)

[DrPop]

http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-hedt-flagship-processor-benchmarked-overclocked-40-ghz/

:D

[DrPop]

And . . . It's official if it's on Anandtech, right? :) http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-cpu-review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested

[Fire$torm]

Hmmm, Intel Core i7-5960X “Haswell-E” (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-117-404) $1K+ for an 8-core CPU? That's esoteric territory. Way beyond my reach. But, for those that can afford, ^:)^ enjoy.

[zombie67]

A bunch of x99 mobos were mentioned on anantech's twitter feed today.

[DrPop]

Yeah, it's going to take me a while to sort the info, as I'm on a three day trip here. They have these clocked so low compared to the 4 and 6 core versions, that we really need to figure out how much crunching power we're actually getting here for the watt burn as well as crunching power per dollar, and then see if these make any sense or not.

[Fire$torm]

And to answer Z's question ---> Motherboards: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007627%20600533617&IsNodeId=1&Description=x99%20motherboard&name=LGA%202011-3&Order=BESTMATCH

And ---> DDR4: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600521523&IsNodeId=1&Description=ddr4&name=288-Pin%20DDR4%20SDRAM&Order=BESTMATCH

[DrPop]

Anyone know if TSX (AVX2) is still broken? That's the microcode that Intel just flat out disabled recently instead of trying to patch, if I read things correctly.
If it's still broken, even on Haswell-e, theb that takes away one of the biggest future advantages of this platform over the original SB/SB-e and IB/IB-e that most of us are running at this point. :(

[zombie67]

Are you sure TSX = AVX2? I looked up TSX on Wikipedia, and didn't see any mention of AVX2.

[Maxwell]

Just came across this beauty (https://twitter.com/ericlaw/statuses/505402756870336513) regarding the new chip...

[zombie67]

Hah! ...what's antivirus?

[John P. Myers]

Hah! ...what's antivirus?

I think it's another name for the annual flu shot? :-??

[John P. Myers]

From AnandTech:
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[John P. Myers]

Many motherboards with the X99 chipset will also support Xeon E5-2600 v3 series CPUs, such as this top-end CPU (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E5-2699%20v3.html). 8 cores? Pfffft...

[Fire$torm]

Are you sure TSX = AVX2? I looked up TSX on Wikipedia, and didn't see any mention of AVX2.

"Errata prompts Intel to disable TSX in Haswell, early Broadwell CPUs" (Link (http://techreport.com/news/26911/errata-prompts-intel-to-disable-tsx-in-haswell-early-broadwell-cpus)) This might clear things up.


Many motherboards with the X99 chipset will also support Xeon E5-2600 v3 series CPUs, such as this top-end CPU (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Xeon/Intel-Xeon%20E5-2699%20v3.html). 8 cores? Pfffft...

"Intel 18 Core and 36 Thread “Xeon E5-2699 V3″ CPU Spotted And Tested" click image for article
http://cdn.eteknix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Intel-Haswell-EP-Xeon-E5-2600-V3-Processors.jpg (http://www.eteknix.com/intel-18-core-and-36-thread-xeon-e5-2699-v3-cpu-spotted-and-tested/)

[Shandia]

Why do I get the feeling that waiting for a year or so to upgrade is the thing to do. I'm somewhat desperate to start weeding out my 2 core systems. But as long as I still use a single core P4 in my farm, I'm sure I can wait. =))

[zombie67]

"Errata prompts Intel to disable TSX in Haswell, early Broadwell CPUs" (Link (http://techreport.com/news/26911/errata-prompts-intel-to-disable-tsx-in-haswell-early-broadwell-cpus)) This might clear things up.

? I don't understand your point. The linked article says that TSX is still not working. Okay. But it does not answer the question, "Are you sure TSX = AVX2?". As far as I can tell, TSX and AVX2 are different things.

TSX (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_Synchronization_Extensions): Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX) is an extension to the x86 instruction set architecture that adds hardware transactional memory support, speeding up execution of multi-threaded software through lock elision.

AVX (Transactional Synchronization Extensions (TSX) is an extension to the x86 instruction set architecture that adds hardware transactional memory support, speeding up execution of multi-threaded software through lock elision.): AVX2 expands most integer commands to 256 bits and introduces FMA. AVX-512 expands AVX to 512-bit support utilizing a new EVEX prefix encoding proposed by Intel in July 2013 and first supported by Intel with the Knights Landing processor scheduled to ship in 2015.

[Fire$torm]

Sorry Z, that was my point. The Errata makes no association between the two. If there was one, it would have been noted within the document.

[John P. Myers]

AVX and TSX are different. In fact, TSX isn't available on most every CPU anyway. It was a select few that were going to have it enabled, like Devil's Canyon most recently. The other desktop Haswell's never had it in the first place, but you can do AVX all day long. Since TSX is not widely available, even when they thought it worked, it was never programmed into anything BOINC-related. TSX is an instruction set and specific TSX instructions must be used in the program or TSX is never used at all. It's not something the CPU can decide to use on it's own. And as i said, since an extremely few processors ever supported it in the first place, nothing was ever coded for TSX. AVX, yes. TSX, no.

[DrPop]

Thanks for the clarification everyone, and sorry Zombie if I mislead anyone with that post, it was more of a question on my end if they were the same thing or not, but I can see I wasn't very clear. I had read a comment from someone on Anandtech that made me think they might be. Glad they are two different things! :o