View Full Version : Enigma special tricks?
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 12:26 PM
Decided to give a go on Enigma after I helped them back in 2006.
Any special tricks under BOINC that I should be aware?
Thank you in advance,
Carlos
Shandia
10-25-15, 12:41 PM
Not that I'm aware of. Just crunch it. It should be good right out of the box unless you are trying it on android. Then it's as a big a pain as most projects.
I believe the is an optimized app for windows.
Shandia
10-25-15, 01:10 PM
I believe the is an optimized app for windows.
Why don't we have a feed under projects or software linking the different opti apps? I seem to recall there use to be but I can't find it. I see DENIS is coming up in a challenge and I have to set up a few. With lunatics, it's a no brainer. But it would be so nice to see a list of current opti apps with links that are known to work as well as a hardware limitations. (cpus and what not that it will work on) I know my Lynnfield is on the ass end of not working a few of them.
Look here for the opti for Enigma
http://www.enigmaathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=17&sort_style=6&start=0
As for why we don't have them in a thread of their own? Probably trying to keep them for our team only, which is kinda ridiculous because they are available with a Google search. DrPop also has the all on a team dl site, but I can never remember the password.
I see no reason not to post them at this point.
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 01:26 PM
I think I added this new opti app to my BOINC from here:
http://www.enigmaathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=636
First attempt I messed everything but now I think I got it. I attach the files I edited and replaced on the project folder.
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pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 01:38 PM
It's running but I don't have how to benchmark it as I started today running Enigma.
It's running but I don't have how to benchmark it as I started today running Enigma.
You might try looking at the top computers on Enigma. If you find one similar to yours, not running anonymous platform, it should give some benchmark to go by.
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 02:07 PM
You might try looking at the top computers on Enigma. If you find one similar to yours, not running anonymous platform, it should give some benchmark to go by.
Hope am I not wrong but on my sandy bridge machine the application is 27% faster and 37.5% faster on my ivy bridge. Compared old wus I run a few hours ago.
You are very likely correct. As I recall, there was a substantial decrease in run time with the optimized application. Enjoy!
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 02:13 PM
You are very likely correct. As I recall, there was a substantial decrease in run time with the optimized application. Enjoy!
Just a note. The opti I am using is the one shared two or three days ago on the enigma forum, not the one from 2009.
Cheers. Let's see if I can get into top10 daily output.
What kind of run times are you seeing? I ran a few on a 3770k at 17 minutes/wu running the option app I've had installed for a long time. Just wondering if the one you're using is newer/faster.
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 04:03 PM
What kind of run times are you seeing? I ran a few on a 3770k at 17 minutes/wu running the option app I've had installed for a long time. Just wondering if the one you're using is newer/faster.
i7-3630QM CPU is processing the 30 points wus in 800sec and 1200 secs the 52 points wus.
i7-4800MQ CPU is processing the 30 points wus in 600 secs, the 52 points in 1000 secs and the 60 points wus in 1200 sec.
i7-3630QM CPU is processing the 30 points wus in 800sec and 1200 secs the 52 points wus.
i7-4800MQ CPU is processing the 30 points wus in 600 secs, the 52 points in 1000 secs and the 60 points wus in 1200 sec.
The difference could be my older processor. Do you have a link to the app you're using so I can see if it's a newer version?
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 04:12 PM
See post #6 of this thread.
Sorry, I overlooked it. Thanks.
pinhodecarlos
10-25-15, 05:38 PM
Looks like we are gonna lose second place.
See post #6 of this thread.
The new app actually cut about 120 seconds/wu off the previous optimized app
Previous opti- app - 1016 seconds for the 30 point variety
New opti-app - 896 seconds for the 30 pointers
pinhodecarlos
11-07-15, 11:13 AM
After a few days on Denis and NFS I am back to enigma. My first goal will be to be the best Portuguese on rankings, for that I'll need to crunch 2M, second help team to keep second place overall or to reach first spot.lets see what comes first.
Well, it doesn't look very likely that the team will hold that second place. With jjch from team Hewlett-Packard putting up 1 mil daily as his pet project, we'll probably not want to defend it that hard at all. (He's pretty much been doing 1 mil daily since June 2015.)
I do have a few mil I want to make here as well, but I was planning on waiting til at least after FB completes in 20 days, seeing as we have a comfortable first place on Enigma for FB already.
pinhodecarlos
11-07-15, 11:48 AM
I know we are going to lose second place, I just need to run something stable on my computers as I'll be going overseas next week with limited internet access.
pinhodecarlos
05-25-16, 07:31 AM
Anyone tried:
New optimizet applications by AGBAR
forum topic http://www.boincatpoland.org/smf/enigmahome-78/enigma-optima/
apps https://github.com/Agbar/enigma-optima/releases/
apps http://chomikuj.pl/rakowskipw/boinc/enigma/opty+enigma
http://www.enigmaathome.net/forum_thread.php?id=281
Shandia
05-26-16, 09:35 AM
The new opti app is a good catch. Thanks Carlos. Bipolar is chewing things up with it. I used the old c2d on the other two systems for a side by side comparison. I switched the e6600 over to the new app this morning and am testing it now on it.
I've been using both the Windows and Linux versions for several months and they definitely outperform the "old" opti apps.
Shandia
05-26-16, 10:19 AM
I've been using both the Windows and Linux versions for several months and they definitely outperform the "old" opti apps.
You can say that again! I didn't bother testing the old app on Bipolar first to get a base reading. (my bad) My times are as follows...
Bipolar -- c2q 9550 -- 1,644.43 to 3,376.63 New Opti
Sapphire -- c2d e6600 -- 5,396.76 to 5,914.48 Old C2D Opti
Emerald -- c2q 6600 -- 7,492.04 to 7,563.20 Old C2D Opti
Sapphire is a new install within the last month with nothing on it except for Boinc and mining software.Until last night, the only projects on it were BU, Goofy, and WUProp. I'm sure it doesn't know NOT to out perform it's q equivalent with the old app. It does appear to have made a slight improvement with the new opti over the old C2D. Really can't expect too much out of it. Oh, I also went out of my way to install opencl_runtime_16.1_x64 on it and Bipolar to get a little more umph out of the mining software. I didn't touch the c2q6600.....maybe that also played a wee part. At the time which I installed that, I was running nvidia on both systems and figured it really wouldn't hurt the cpu that much to have that option.
EDIT -- Sapphire -- 2,475.31 to 2,966.41 New Opti
Yeah, the new opti app is just a little better. And I'm gonna beat Emerald for being an ass if it doesn't improve by a large margin running the new app.
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