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Eh, not really. Temps are comparable to the T5500. Just don't have to mess with a riser. Though the heatsink upgrade on the primary cpu keeps it nice and cool. The cpu on the riser gets as hot as the Z600 cpus. Avg 75C?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
You're correct, the Z600 PSU is a limitation. I power a GPU in one with a separate PSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by FourOh
Okay, pulled the trigger on this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z800-Work...QAAOSwBLlU~fDb
I bid $900.00 shipping is $66.00. Tell me what ya think?
You won't be disappointed with that machine, I'm positive of that fact. Welcome to the 24 thread owners club. :)
Yeah, you'll like it.:-bd
You'll be so happy with it. You'll be shopping to add another once you get it settled in. Are you familiar with VMs? I wasn't at all until I got it and have learned a ton with the help of these forums.
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Thanks guys. I'm sure if had waited I'd have found a better deal but I was impatient. I went a bit over budget on this so I'll have to put off that x99 build till after Christmas. A fair compromise with "she who rules".Quote:
Originally Posted by MindCrime
You might be able to put a 280x in it and have something that meets all your needs for a bit longer.
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I'll get that x99 build or like you said, I'll want another. :p I't'll be here next week. I can't wait for the next cpu challenge we hit.
Pardon my bias. I'm living vicariously through this build thread.
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The one thing dual cpu systems aren't good at is crunching under a VM. It works, but there's a bit of a performance hit. If you want to also have a linux option, you should consider a dual boot setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by MindCrime
WAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAH!!! I hope I don't let you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by MindCrime
@Scole, I'll look at a dual boot setup.
I feel like Bryan is going to jump in and mention ProLasso any minute. I'm note sure if this is why their would be a performance hit but I can migrate or set affinities.
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Process Lasso is a utility that allows you to force specific programs to run on a physical core to avoid hyper threading performance hits. The performance hit running virtual box on dual cpu systems is different. Bryan has good advice about both.
ProLasso is one of the better utility programs out there for us in this hobby. I also use it during gaming with those finicky games. Props to Christopher Herr on introducing me to ProLasso.
Well, my experience with VM's is that Virtual box does fine as long as you don't assign more cores to a VM than a single CPU has. Once you go over that, VirtualBox doesn't handle it well at all. But below that threshold, it's not such a huge amount of overhead. Maybe a couple of percentage points. (2-4% for me.)
With regards to VM versus native Linux, my I7 3930s take a 12.5% performance hit running under a VM. The dual Xeons take a 28-30% hit .... VBox does NOT handle multi-processors well! The difference in Mumps' numbers and mine may be because he runs cores and I run hyper threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by scole of TSBT
ProLasso will not control VBox ... everything else yes, VBox no.
Just a heads up, looking like the i7-6950X might have 10 cores/20 threads and be available 1h 2016. It should also be compatible with the X99 chipset, same as the i7-5960X. Same base clock speed too.
Great, you had to add this to my thread? /:) Now I have to save up some more money and wait another 6 months.... $-)#-o:-? Thankfully I'll have my new 24 threads to play with while I wait. #:-s<:-P<:-PQuote:
Originally Posted by John P. Myers
Ok, I'm setting this up right now and have a few questions. How hot can these cores run, what is too hot? Is there a way to up the fans? Hyper thread or no hyper thread? I'll be doing updates for awhile now so I have nothing but time. I'm running PG right now to test the temps.
In the BIOS there's a setting to increase the minimum speed of the dual rear fans. Keep the case closed for the best air flow. Temps on my systems run 70-75 but since Tcase on those CPUs is 81C I let them run.
Cores 1 and 5 on each of the cpus is running 76-77 while all the other cores on both cpus are 68-72. That seem strange? Where in the bios do I find the setting for the fans? I am missing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by scole of TSBT
Look for a Thermal menu under the Power main menu.
Thank you!! Another question, should I use Enhanced Intel Turbo Boost Technology? It is currently disabled in the bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by scole of TSBT
Only if you want it to peak at 3.33Ghz instead of 2.93GhzQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
Hmm, that does not sound like a bad thing. >:)Quote:
Originally Posted by scole of TSBT
They will not run too hot, so that they allow damage to themselves. Run them as hot as you want, until they start self-throttling.
Good to know. I've seen one core hit 83c. Most of the others are in the low 70's.. How does everyone feel about moving from Win. 7 pro to Win 10 on this box?Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
You will see that from time to time depending on the project and usually only under the passively cooled cpu...though you're running an HP and it may have a different cooling solution. As Z said, until you see throttling or errors, don't worry about it. The processors will shut down prior to damage. So, how are you liking the 24 threads so far? I love mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
Personally, I'm not a Win 10 fan, but I'm old and crotchety. The only computer I run it on is my laptop and only because I lost the ability to access all my music when I reverted back the Win 7.
I love the box. Can't wait to crank it up on a real challenge. I was on PG but I'm on WCG now. Let's see what this can do. I want to upgrade a few badges over there.
Don't sell yourself short, you need to upgrade all of your WCG badges! =))=)):P=))=)) Now you have something to help you do that fairly quickly. :p I knew you would like it, the most bang for the crunching buck out there! So when do you buy the next one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
Don't laugh, I'm scanning ebay now. $-)
Me too! If you start bidding on something let us know, no sense bidding against each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
You got it.
You guys should keep an eye on this one, 14 hours left...http://www.ebay.com/itm/121811587387
The CPUs need to be replaced, 2 X5670 for $200, but if you can snag that system for less than $300, that's a dual X5670 24 core, 24GB RAM system for less than $600.
$300 for Z600
$82 for shipping
$200 for 2 X5670
$582 total
Could sell for more, could sell for less. You never know.
Nice find Scole. Wouldn't you need to upgrade the psu as well?
Well, that's the drawback of these systems. I don't think you can upgrade the PSU. It's all proprietary parts. You can probably power a GTX 750ti, but that's it.. On mine, I used a separate modular PSU to power the GPU.
(and I had to update my post. It's Z600, not T5500.)
Mike are you bidding on this system? I've got it at 143.25, but I have no problem with backing off on bidding.
Edit:And neither does my wife.
No no, not bidding on it. I have not given up on the 5930k build yet. I just have not made up my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sphynx
I could not resist. I pulled the trigger on the upgrade. Here is the new gaming rig from Newegg.
Asus Sabertooth http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813132518
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231942
Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5 GHz LGA 2011-v3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-403-_-Product
All the other components are on page one. I guess I'm back.
I'm not going with the SSD at this time. Got to cut corners somewhere. :p Well, that's it.
Thanks to everyone who helped me put this together. You guys and gals rock....
Are you sure? http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellS...012-_-11222015 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike029