Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

Yes it is. I purchased one in March got the rebate. Purchased two in April got the rebate on both and will be purchasing 1 maybe two more now that they have a new rebate for May. So hook it up while you can they are awesome little crunchers.

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Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1

Yes it is. I purchased one... So hook it up while you can they are awesome little crunchers.

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So you guys are just loading (older?) rigs up with these, I mean rigs that only have PCI slots in them? What kind of output are they giving / day?:confused:
Would be interesting to do a credits / $ and Credits / watt ratio to see about these...

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Originally Posted by DrPop

What kind of output are they giving / day?

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I am seeing roughly 70k/day with mine in a P4 (no hyperthreading) box. Had to update ncpus to 2 in order to still allow computing on the CPU as well since Dirt takes up 70% of a cpu.

Thanks for that info. I'll throw that into my spreadsheet I've done with the various cards and see how it stacks up credits /$ and /watt wise. :cool:

Only other thing - do you think that older P4 CPU is starving the GPU any when you crunch CPU tasks on it, or does the GPU % utilization stay pretty high still?
Thanks.

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Originally Posted by DrPop

Thanks for that info. I'll throw that into my spreadsheet I've done with the various cards and see how it stacks up credits /$ and /watt wise. :cool:

Only other thing - do you think that older P4 CPU is starving the GPU any when you crunch CPU tasks on it, or does the GPU % utilization stay pretty high still?
Thanks.

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I'll have to check that out. Haven't looked since I updated the ncpus. Initially it was not running an CPU tasks at all because of the 70% cpu usage. Might have to try it out on other Nvidia gpu projects as well.

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Originally Posted by DrPop

So you guys are just loading (older?) rigs up with these, I mean rigs that only have PCI slots in them? What kind of output are they giving / day?:confused:
Would be interesting to do a credits / $ and Credits / watt ratio to see about these...

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Yeah any available PCI slot. It is an easy way to grab some quick credits without overloading a PSU and having to engineer anything. I have two of these in a Dual Core AMD plus an old 9500 until I nab a better card. I am not able to do any CPU computing and am waiting for some ram to arrive for the machine and then I will update you on the credits.

What is the best way to calculate the credits for this host? Boinc Stats shows all sorts of crazy numbers for the host so I am not certain it would be accurate.



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Originally Posted by Slicker

I only see it for the PCI Express versions, not the PCI version.

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Newegg: $69.99 + 6.98 S/H

CompUSA/TigerDirect: $74.99 + ??? S/H (Before $20.00 MIR)

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Originally Posted by Fire$torm

Newegg: $69.99 + 6.98 S/H

CompUSA/TigerDirect: $74.99 + ??? S/H (Before $20.00 MIR)

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Funny to see CompUSA has the card (with the PCI part number) filed under PCI Express 2.0 cards with 1 Gb or more RAM, but even the description says PCI and only 512 Meg...

Just curious how much that shipping actually works out to for me...

Shout out to Dr. Pop

What can I do with this: HP Pavillion 64 x2 Dual core 4600+ 2.41ghz with 2 gb of ram. I already slammed a Zotac PCI in there and have room for 1 more and a PCIe 16 slot open as well.

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Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1

Shout out to Dr. Pop

What can I do with this: HP Pavillion 64 x2 Dual core 4600+ 2.41ghz with 2 gb of ram. I already slammed a Zotac PCI in there and have room for 1 more and a PCIe 16 slot open as well.

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It sure sounds like someone has caught the crunching bug!

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Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1

Shout out to Dr. Pop

What can I do with this: HP Pavillion 64 x2 Dual core 4600+ 2.41ghz with 2 gb of ram. I already slammed a Zotac PCI in there and have room for 1 more and a PCIe 16 slot open as well.

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PM sent! :D

Almost picked up a GT 520 today. Glad I didn't. The GT 430 has double the CUDA cores and almost the same clock speed for the same price.

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Originally Posted by Slicker

Almost picked up a GT 520 today. Glad I didn't. The GT 430 has double the CUDA cores and almost the same clock speed for the same price.

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Absolutely. The 430 is ~1.75x faster than the 520 at stock. Glad you noticed in time :)

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Originally Posted by DrPop

Good Evening, Cap'n! Well hmmm...sometimes it is worth upgrading the old beast and sometimes not. ;) I have been round and round myself on stuff like this at many times in my life. The biggest question that comes to mind is, this being a "mini" BTX system, can you fit a good PSU in there? If not, what is the wattage of the current PSU? That is likely to be your limiting factor on an old Dell / HP / insert "Brand" here.

CPU: If you want to use the stock cooler on the CPU (i.e. you don't want to mod the case!) then the best CPU you can stick in there is the AMD Athlon X2 6000+ for just shy of $50 - this is due to the 6400+ CPU taking a lot more watts, and the stock cooler probably can't hack it.

RAM: 4GB DDR2 800 (as in four sticks of 1GB supported) Not sure, but *sometimes* with the latest BIOS update you can get 2 sticks of 2GB working in these old things, but they only have 32Bit Memory addressing in the chipset, so the chipset is limited at 4GB (actually Windows will only see 3.5GB - no matter if you run 64bit version or not).

GPU: Pretty much sky is the limit for crunching because you have a PCI-e X16 slot w/ 8GBs/sec bandwidth. No worries there, even though it's only revision 1 of PCi-e, the card will crunch no problem! The issue here is going to be PSU - can you put a more powerful PSU in this rig? If not, you are limited to the 305W of the original Dell PSU. Not many "big" PCI-e GPUs can run off of the little you will have to give it - perhaps you could throw a GTX 460 in there, and be safe - but that would mean NO other GPUs at all - don't even think about doing anything else to it on the stock PSU. :)
Your 2 PCI slots you *could* fill up with the PCI version of the GTX 430 they are talking about in this thread as well. Depending on how big your primary GPU is that you stick in that PCI-e slot, heat may become a problem - or you can just leave the case off if it's in the right setting! :D

Hope this helps a little. ;)

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I have stuck 2 pci 430 gts and a pcie 430 gt in this rig. I have a pci x 1 slot and am wondering what if any issues I will run into if I slam one of these in the slot?

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...2d56a012033750

The rig still has the stock PSU and heat isn't an issue. Here is a link to the rigs stats page. I have been running Collatz as it leaves the CPUs free.

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?p...b722d78963f19c

Just realized that I am purchasing half the cores on the 520 so I will be needing a converter. 1 x to pci or pciex16 any ideas?

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Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1

I have stuck 2 pci 430 gts and a pcie 430 gt in this rig. I have a pci x 1 slot and am wondering what if any issues I will run into if I slam one of these in the slot?

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?...2d56a012033750

The rig still has the stock PSU and heat isn't an issue. Here is a link to the rigs stats page. I have been running Collatz as it leaves the CPUs free.

http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?p...b722d78963f19c

Just realized that I am purchasing half the cores on the 520 so I will be needing a converter. 1 x to pci or pciex16 any ideas?

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Sorry for the long delay for an answer to this :/

There would not be any issue with putting a 520 in your x1 slot. The adapters increase the mounting height of the card so you'd need a low profile 430 to still be able to screw the card down at the rear slot. And adapters aren't free. But if you have a dremel or a soldering iron, you can remove the end cap of the PCIe x1 slot for nothing more than the cost of the electricity to run the tools. Then you can stick a PCIe x16 card in the x1 slot. Easy peasy :p

Here's a video discussing it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_9eUbBU1cY

Thanks John!

Now where is that Dremel?...

Oh no! I can't find these at Newegg anymore ;( I've got 3 empty PCI slots still ;( ;( ;(

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Originally Posted by John P. Myers

Oh no! I can't find these at Newegg anymore ;( I've got 3 empty PCI slots still ;( ;( ;(

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I was getting them at Comp USA. With the rebate it was cheaper than Amazon or New Egg.

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Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1

I was getting them at Comp USA. With the rebate it was cheaper than Amazon or New Egg.

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Not anymore. Newegg says they're discontinued and CompUsa wants $76 apiece (10% more than Newegg) for what they have left. Found some on eBay for ~$72 + $7 shipping. I'll have another chat with Zotac monday and see if they'll make a gt 620/630 PCI card :/

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Originally Posted by John P. Myers

Not anymore. Newegg says they're discontinued and CompUsa wants $76 apiece (10% more than Newegg) for what they have left. Found some on eBay for ~$72 + $7 shipping. I'll have another chat with Zotac monday and see if they'll make a gt 620/630 PCI card :/

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I thought I found some pcix1 cards from them somewhere. 430 if I remember correctly. Don't know if you could stick that in a PCI slot or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-ZT-406...item27cfa7efce

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130886

Here is a EVGA GT 430 but it is 128 bit and is fan cooled. Same price (refurbished) and with FREE shipping.

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Originally Posted by c303a

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130886

Here is a EVGA GT 430 but it is 128 bit and is fan cooled. Same price (refurbished) and with FREE shipping.

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No no no :p Pope Dan has it right. The one you've linked is PCIe, not PCI. No reason to buy a GT 430 PCIe since you can get a GT 630 or 640 for those slots on the cheap. But for a PCI slot the GT 430 is still the best there is.

There were some GT 630s made for PCI, but they were OEM only and can't be purchased anywhere :(

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Originally Posted by John P. Myers

No no no :p Pope Dan has it right. The one you've linked is PCIe, not PCI. No reason to buy a GT 430 PCIe since you can get a GT 630 or 640 for those slots on the cheap. But for a PCI slot the GT 430 is still the best there is.

There were some GT 630s made for PCI, but they were OEM only and can't be purchased anywhere :(

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Sorry, I mis-read. Back to school for me. I hav e to agree that you don't want a PCI-E for a PCI slot. Of course that might be another use for a Big Hammer!

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Of course that might be another use for a Big Hammer!

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*checks watch*

Yep...shouldn't be long now before Duke posts a picture of this big hammer...

I forgot that we have to watch what we say when The Duke is around.:D:D:D

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Originally Posted by c303a

I forgot that we have to watch what we say when The Duke is around.:D:D:D

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http://www.dashe.com/blog/wp-content...02-300x207.jpg

:o Not me about computers my friend.

By the way what is a PCI thing? :confused:

Since Dirt has changed the WU length and their issued credits twice since this thread was started, thought i'd give an update.

GT 430 (PCI) stock app: 42,995 seconds = 50,610 credits/day
GT 430 (PCI) opti-app: 22,879 seconds = 95,108 credits/day

Will update with Primegrid PPS Sieve in a little while

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Originally Posted by John P. Myers

Since Dirt has changed the WU length and their issued credits twice since this thread was started, thought i'd give an update.

GT 430 (PCI) stock app: 42,995 seconds = 50,610 credits/day
GT 430 (PCI) opti-app: 22,879 seconds = 95,108 credits/day

Will update with Primegrid PPS Sieve in a little while

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That beats:

nVidia 8800GT with Opti App (26,096 seconds)
ATI Radeon HD 5700 - no Opti available - (~25000 seconds)
ATI Radeon HD 5800 - no Opti available - (19,500 seconds) --not beat, but when you consider the low wattage and heat of the GT430...

I am thoroughly impressed with its PCI use, small form factor, low power requirements, and price tag about $35-40.

PPS Sieve: 6,883 seconds = 42,315 credits/day

@Vic: yes they are great little crunchers for cheap. Also, it's not like there is any other use for a PCI slot anymore anyway. Might as well stick a GPU in it :)

love this card man i have one with my 520 gt and it out does it by allmost 2times

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Originally Posted by E-30

love this card man i have one with my 520 gt and it out does it by allmost 2times

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Awesome. What kind of WU times are you seeing on the current Seti@home challenge? Love those little cards.

2 hrs on the430 and 3 he on the 520

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Originally Posted by E-30

2 hrs on the430 and 3 he on the 520

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Interesting. Is that Astropulse or Setiathome_v7? My 8800GTs are doing 1 hour for S@H v7. I would figure the GT430 would easily meet or beat that.

SETI 7 it don't have the bandwidth for it it's PCI

You sure you're not comparing a stock app to an opti?

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Both op I have them in the same box

at last figured it out they were running the op app 3.2 insted of the 4.2 so now we will see times go down i hope

did some e@h and the 520gt is betting it out by 3 hours for some reason the 430 is oc at 850 shader 1700 625 ram and the 520 is at 900 cpu 1800 shader and 525 ram

520 is doing 9 hrs
430 is going anyware for 11 to 13 hrs

well did some prime grid with the 430 and a 650 ti the 650 ti is doing right at 20mins to 23 mins and the 430 gt is doing 1 hr 20 mins