guys since the one posted isnt in stock anymore i found this one with more ram for the same price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-ZT-407...p2054897.l4276
he also has the 430's
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guys since the one posted isnt in stock anymore i found this one with more ram for the same price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-ZT-407...p2054897.l4276
he also has the 430's
Well, the point was the 430 was the best PCI card available. The link you got here is for a PCIe card. Plenty of better options for low power PCIe cards. But those of us still keeping systems without PCIe limping along were happy to have found an option better than a 8800GT. :)
so is this still the best pci card u can get at a pretty cheap price?
I picked up a socket 775 motherboard with an albatron ti4600, and well i've been shopping for agp cards on ebay/Craigslist to replace it but I think you might be on to something... I have 3 open pci slots and temps are going to be an issue this summer. I think a PCI card for that machine and a 750ti for this one.
Also I'd like to mention the gt 430 has double precision, while a lot of cards in its power or performance class don't.
Yep nothing faster has been made for a standard PCI slot yet, and at this point probably never will.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave c
@MindCrime: Yes the 430 has DP, but it would be so excruciatingly slow you'll be better off pretending it doesn't. If you're looking for DP, buy AMD, not Nvidia :)
thanks going to order up 2 of them todayQuote:
Originally Posted by John P. Myers
so my cards will be here in a day , what projects are u guys using these to crunch for?
currently im only doing seti and collatz if they work out well i may pick up a few more as i have a bunch of pci only machines
They're good for Collatz. Decent points there. Much more than Seti@home pays. Plus we've got a competition in Collatz starting soon anyway :D
good to know , once i see how well they do maybe ill have to help out with the compitetion.
btw how many cards can u stick in one machine before it slows them down due to the pci bus
That depends on your CPU and which project your running on the GPUs. If you're going to fill every PCI slot with one of these, then you may need to question your power supply as well. These 430's don't use much power, but a bunch of them together may push the standard low-end power supplies to their limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave c
You will probably find that not crunching any CPU tasks, allowing it to feed the GPUs only, will give you the best results. And credit-wise this is the best plan too, since the 430's will do much more work than your CPU.
my cards arrived but i havent been to the post office to pick them up yet , ill grab them in the afternoon when im on lunch from work
should be a really nice upgrade for my dell 3000's wish i would have known about these sooner as last month i just purchased some older geforce cards to stick in them so i could atleast watch movies and online videos , atleast i only paid like 14.95 for the geforce 6200 cards i bought
first run with a single zotac did not last long at all , with 0 overclocking i only made it 7 mins into the first collatz wu
froze the pc up solid , so i do a hard shutdown and put my hand on the card and the heatsink is red hot
i think i have a few problems here
#1 is the card sits upside down in my case ( heatsink on the bottom )
#2 is i had the card in the very bottom slot near the base of the case , i did this so i didnt have to rearange my other cards for the time being
im going to pull out my cd/dvd burner and put it back in upside down , and do the same with my harddrive so i can actually stick the tower upside down so the video cards heatsink is on the top
and then ill rearange my other pci cards so i can put them in a better slot
i did pull some fans of an old pentium 2 slot cpu/heatsink and they will screw directly to the zotac heatsink so i may add those , only problem is i have no 3 pin connectors to plug them in , so i may see if a regular case fan can be mounted on the heatsink sinc ei have a few that will plug into the normal power connectors from the psu instead of splicing the small fans into an unused plug
i will say this the collatz mini wu was estimated to finish in 35 minutes thats only 1 minute more then my ati radeon 6620g on my amd machine
so if i can make both cards work and run solo wu's i think i can pull down alot of credits a day
and i do love this card i did go on second life for a bit to test it , my old evga geforce 6200 would run only at minimum , the zotac is rated 5 out of 7 for video score and runs great in med high settings
gpu-z is reporting a temp of 65-67*c with the card running second life , havent tried to crunch with it yet as now that i changed its slot i need to update the drivers again
safe enough or should i go throw a fan on it?
updated to the latest drivers and within 5 mins of crunching temps hit 75*c and computer locked up again
any ideas guys?
Hi Dave, honestly 75C is pretty normal for the GPUs I'm running. I've never owned that particular GPU, but mine (crunching) are all in the 80s and doing well. GPUs get much hotter than CPUs.
Not sure if the temp is locking you or something else. Did you try any other project or other type of WU? Which type of Collatz WU did you try, OpenCL or CUDA?
the wu's are mini colatz (cuda55)Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPop
whats another project i can try
ok on the temp i thought it was a lil high as my other computers sit right around 65*c when crunching
I've got 2 430s (pci-e) and they can run in the 80 - 90c range without any issues. Like DrPop, I don't think it's a heat issue.
im going to swap them into a different computer and see what happens , this computer has a 500w psu but im only using a single ide hd , single dvd drive , and its a very basic p4 2.8hgz machine so shouldnt be much power drawQuote:
Originally Posted by Sphynx
i have another with a 650w psu ill see if that makes any difference but i doubt thats the issue either
i can also try playing a game that would drive the card pretty hard and see if that also causes it to lock up the pc
no change , what driver version are u guys using? bad cards maybe?
My 430 is using driver 335.something :p I honestly can't recall if I ever ran collatz on it though, but distrtgen and primegrid worked fine. Your temps aren't too high but maybe the issue is being caused by the other cards you said you had in there?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John P. Myers
i pulled out all other pci cards, its still locking up , i will give it a go with another project and see what happens
Here is my GT430 on Collatz Mini
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...c/GT-430-A.gif
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...c/GT-430-B.gif
With all the other cards removed, do a driver uninstall, run a driver scrubber, then install of the driver.
thanks will try thatQuote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
is anyone using this card on windows xp? or are u all on windows 7?
I've used it on both, but currently on XP though not running. I have that computer down during the Pentathlon because i ran out of ethernet cables that are long enough and too lazy to go get one. Plus we don't need another GPU in the Pentathlon anyway so it hasn't been a priority. I'll turn it back on within a week or so.
You could have picked one up when you were out a Taco Bell getting breakfast...you where out anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by John P. Myers
ok i think i finally have it running stable , i disabled the cuda40/55 apps and am running the open cl app im at 5 mins run time with no freeze yet
i really would like to wire up some fans on this thing the case gets pretty hot with only one card inside and i plan on adding the second one
the only fans i have that will fit and mount properly to the heatsink are old pentium 2 slot processor fans , u know those lil 2 inch square fans?
they are 3 pin connectors red,yellow and black , i assume i only need to wore the red and black to the red and black on the psu's 4 pin connectors ( drive connectors)
anyone know for sure?
sucess only thing is it got to 97*c before i shut it down
heres my fan mod
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...psea47c7fd.jpg
and the card is cruising along at sub 50*c
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...ps5a631fcf.gif
now time to overclock it
thanks again guys shes humming along nicely now
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...pse044838a.gif
i think a few more of these may be in order
edit how far can u push these cards
not sure if i want to try to oc this anymore though the card is staying very cool
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...ps04e2c05a.gif
Your temps will increase noticeably when you add more cards. Best not to OC
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with the gpu running at 960mhz instead of 700mhz im only seeing 62*c max.
when i get out of work today i will add fans to the second card and put that in and then monitor temps
i will say those 2 tiny fans have droped temps by 40*c over what it ran without being oc , if those fans werent on there with it being oc'ed im sure temps would be well above 115*c , i will keep an eye on it though though once the second card goes in , i will propally cut my cases side panel an add a second case fan as currently im running it with the side panel off the case
wow that card has more then dbled my daily credit before i put that card in i was about 45k a day , its only been half a day and ive already put up 76k , should be real nice once i get that second card up and running tongiht
That is good news DC. Congrats.
yup its doing pretty well , i just cant get bionic to use both cards at the same time for some reason , is there a setting i need to change?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
Yes. On some systems it will work automatically. On others, you must add this under Options in the CC_Config.xml file in the C:\programdata\BOINC\ directory:Quote:
Originally Posted by dave c
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
Also make sure that BOINC sees both cards. You can see this in the event log when boinc starts.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
i got it working but using both cards at the same time results in a system hang everytime after about 5 mins of run time
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see the heatsink nexto the cpu socket ,this was getting super hot so i added a fan hoping it would cure the system hang now the heatsink stays cool to the touch , but i still get the system hang after a few minutes
i even tried disabling the onboard video , and sticking a geforce 6200 in the 3rdslot and using that so i wouldnt have to use the onboard or zotac cards for video
was hoping i could load these machines with the cards but looks like only 1 per machine will work properly or atleast be stable
I think part of the issue could be the PSU Dell spec'd for that system. Dell is notorious for under powering their systems. IMO the reason being is to induce the need for replacement parts (at highly inflated prices) sooner rather then later. Since the average Dell customer has the blue collar mentality of "Only Dealer Replacement Parts" thanks to decades of the Detroit Big 3 propaganda, most never look beyond Dell.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave c
Anyhoot back on track. x2 GTX 430 could be enough of a power draw in your Dell to cause a slight voltage drop, which would result in system lockup.
it kind of sucks as i have a handfull of these machines and i was thinking the cards since they are so cheap would make these nice crunchers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
i did check the psu's and they are infact tiny , im just going to gut the cases and go back with some cheap fx 6 or 8 core cpus in all 3 of the dells im using
i have 3 of these dell machines that i actually use though one is currently just a media server for my xbox and tvs for streaming movies,so the upgrade will work out nice on the 2 i use for daily computer use
for anyone else using these cards a single small fan on the cards heatsink drastically increases how much ive been able to over clock the card, and the mini fans are very quiet
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