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Poem new GPU app update
From the News Thread a little while again :
"I've just updated the POEM@HOME Binaries to Version 2.00. This is the first big step for our new GPU project. I'll have to adjust some parameters of the new work units, and will send them out at the end of this week.
I'm confident the errors which occurred during the test phase have been resolved. If you encounter any problems nevertheless, please report it in our message boards." - Thomas Koch
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Skip the techno-goop. When can I start crunching Poem on my Winders machines? :)
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myshortpencil
Skip the techno-goop. When can I start crunching Poem on my Winders machines? :)
After you put your clothes back on.
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EmSti
After you put your clothes back on.
I'll take that as a failed attempt at a joke. :)
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EmSti
After you put your clothes back on.
Hahahaha!!! :)) oh man, I was rolling on that one. :D
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DrPop
Hahahaha!!! :)) oh man, I was rolling on that one. :D
Pay no attention to these lusty imaginations. If they object to your avatar, they should send you a PM rather than taunt you in public. I haven't seen anyone making fun of zombie's avatars, but maybe that's because he has 2.5 billion credits! No offense zombie. :)>-
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No issues with his avatar, just having some fun. And I have made some fun comments at zombie's before. I think I fell in love with one of his, if I recall correctly.
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EmSti
.... I think I fell in love with one of his, if I recall correctly.
Ditto here
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EmSti
After you put your clothes back on.
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myshortpencil
I'll take that as a failed attempt at a joke. :)
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DrPop
Hahahaha!!! :)) oh man, I was rolling on that one. :D
Dont you understand? It is Myshortpencil washing machine that it is broken ...
http://www.adpic-images.com/data/pic...ine_347133.jpg
or maybe he used all his money on computers.
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Update, gpu wus released on POEM.
"I've now started some GPU work units. Unfortunately I can already see some errors.
Please make sure you run the new work units with poemcl 2.00. This should be done automatically; however I can see some failed work units using deprecated versions, so please check your config files if you have edited them manually.
You may also have to check the settings of installed anti virus software and allow poemcl to use your GPU.
If there are other errors, please report them here.
To the latest questions:
The new POEM Version is also running old tasks, but has new force field implementations which are used for the recently started simulations. All of our running projects are concerning Protein Optimization.
We are working on a release for the Mac, but it will still only support CPU jobs."
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Have you returned any work successfully? I have two errors after over two hours on my 7790; I have a 5850 running now. Looks like 90% GPU usage with 1 work unit, so I'm sticking with that for now to get a baseline.
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nope. Just aborted all currently running ones. Stopped all CPU tasks. Removed overclocks. Setting for 1 wus/ gpu all cpus free. Starting a clean run.
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FourOh
Have you returned any work successfully? I have two errors after over two hours on my 7790; I have a 5850 running now. Looks like 90% GPU usage with 1 work unit, so I'm sticking with that for now to get a baseline.
I assume the old app_info files will not work. Are new ones available?
Old app_info example:
<app_info>
<app>
<name>poemcl</name>
<user_friendly_name>POEM++ OpenCL version</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>poemcl_1.3_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati_10 0</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>poemcl</app_name>
<version_num>103</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.75</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.75</max_ncpus>
<flops>4.0e11</flops>
<plan_class>opencl_ati_100</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>poemcl_1.3_windows_intelx86__opencl_ati _100</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.33</count>
</coproc>
<gpu_ram>320.000000</gpu_ram>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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I've got 1 wu running on each 7970 in a dual system. It's defaulting to 1 cpu and 1 ATI gpu per wu. 99% usage. Looks like they will run a lot longer than they use to. I'll report when they finish.
Edit: I tried it on a dual nv system also. It no longer loop restarts the task on the 2nd gpu. It does tie up the 2nd gpu and an additional core with zero gpu usage. Ugh! Obviously they didn't care to completely fix that problem.
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app_info file not needed. easier to use app_config.xml (they can even be dynamically loaded).
I am aborting all poem work units and will try again another day. Even basic run with no o.c failed. I wonder if they have a multi gpu issue. I will be out of town for a week anyway no time to play with new toys.
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Al McAdams
I've got 1 wu running on each 7970 in a dual system. It's defaulting to 1 cpu and 1 ATI gpu per wu. 99% usage. Looks like they will run a lot longer than they use to. I'll report when they finish.
Edit: I tried it on a dual nv system also. It no longer loop restarts the task on the 2nd gpu. It does tie up the 2nd gpu and an additional core with zero gpu usage. Ugh! Obviously they didn't care to completely fix that problem.
On previous version I got around the problem by using 2 clients. Tell each to ignore one NVidia GPU.
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Both ati tasks errored out at 7100 seconds. "unknown error" is a bit vague.
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On my TITAN, ~65% load with a single task, 96% with two, 97 with three. Each task reserving a full thread. So I am running them two at a time, unless someone tells me that there is an advantage to running more than two, based on credits.
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Looks like they'll pay ~6500 credits if you can get them to validate.
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Al McAdams
Both ati tasks errored out at 7100 seconds. "unknown error" is a bit vague.
If the tasks are all erring at the exact same time, then the project has set the max run time to that value. When the tasks hit that value, they self-abort. If that is the case, then only the project can fix it.
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EmSti
app_info file not needed. easier to use app_config.xml (they can even be dynamically loaded).
Thanks. So is there a link to the current app_config.xml file?
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Well, it's not the project as the next one errored out at 5200 seconds. I just got home and have now aborted all the work I had in my cache. Detached and reattached to the project and downloaded more work. This seems to be more "normal"...1 wu at 65% usage, which is more like I'd expect. We'll see how these go.
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myshortpencil
Thanks. So is there a link to the current app_config.xml file?
The Duke of Buckingham found it for me. :) It's here: http://www.setiusa.us/showthread.php...app_config-xml
Thanks Duke ^:)^
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<app_config>
<app>
<name>poemcl</name>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.5</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
Edit the GPU and CPU values as needed.
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Finished two tasks (at a time) on my TITAN. Took 8400 seconds each. 6500 credits each. That works out to ~133k/day.
For one of my dual 7970 machines, I am also running two tasks per card. With the two tasks, it is pegged at 99% flat. Unlike the TITAN, I need to reserve only .5 CPU thread per task.
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zombie67
Finished two tasks (at a time) on my TITAN. Took 8400 seconds each. 6500 credits each. That works out to ~133k/day.
For one of my dual 7970 machines, I am also running two tasks per card. With the two tasks, it is pegged at 99% flat. Unlike the TITAN, I need to reserve only .5 CPU thread per task.
So that means the credits for Poem GPUs are far less than for the retired version. :(
Shoot, they're less than DiRT and Collatz, now, aren't they?
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Yes, they are.
I did get 2 to validate on my 7970, running 2 at a time with .5 cpu per task
Completed and validated 6,865.27 2,103.69 6,500.00 POEM++ OpenCL version v2.00 (opencl_ati_100)
Completed and validated 6,846.81 2,088.01 6,500.00 POEM++ OpenCL version v2.00 (opencl_ati_100)
Looks to be about 163k/day on a 7970
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For the old app, I seem to recall that running more tasks at a time did not increase the load, but it did increase production significantly. So for someone with a 580 and an 8 thread CPU, the best thing to do would be to run like 6 tasks at a time, with no CPU tasks. If I recall correctly.
Edit: I'm going to try running a bunch over night on the TITAN and see what it does.
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Al McAdams
Yes, they are.
I did get 2 to validate on my 7970, running 2 at a time with .5 cpu per task
Completed and validated 6,865.27 2,103.69 6,500.00 POEM++ OpenCL version v2.00 (opencl_ati_100)
Completed and validated 6,846.81 2,088.01 6,500.00 POEM++ OpenCL version v2.00 (opencl_ati_100)
Looks to be about 163k/day on a 7970
One of the two in the machine is factory OC at 1050. It did a pair in 7700 seconds each, or 146k/day. The other card is slightly OC by me at 975, and did the pair in 8300 seconds, or 135k/day.
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zombie67
Finished two tasks (at a time) on my TITAN. Took 8400 seconds each. 6500 credits each. That works out to ~133k/day.
Running 6 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 15,500 seconds. That works out to ~218k/day. So 6 is better than 2. I will drop it to see what 4 does.
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zombie67
One of the two in the machine is factory OC at 1050. It did a pair in 7700 seconds each, or 146k/day. The other card is slightly OC by me at 975, and did the pair in 8300 seconds, or 135k/day.
(machines with dual 7970s)
The stock machine returned nothing but errors running 3.
The other machine ran 3 at a time in 12,100 seconds. That translates to 139k/day. No advantage to more than two at a time on 7970s, it seems.
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Ran a single Poem OpenCL work unit on a 5850, results are not promising for that card: 16,531 seconds for a possible 34,000/day. I'll run one more to confirm, but it doesn't seem like a good use of GPU time. It also appears Poem is suffering from the same issue as before: limited GPU work.
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Try running two at a time, just to be sure. Also, BOINC Project Updater is the tool I used for POEM, to make sure I always had work.
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zombie67
Try running two at a time, just to be sure. Also, BOINC Project Updater is the tool I used for POEM, to make sure I always had work.
Thanks, I'll look into the Project Updater. I'll do some more testing on Poem next week when I get the 7950 I ordered and get to a good milestone on GPUGrid. I'm also hoping they get whatever is causing errors worked out over the next week or two.
Ran a single successful Poem work unit on the 7790, completed in 9690 seconds for a potential 80k/day+.
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I removed and reinstalled Poem in a Win7, x64, AMD A8-3870k, XFX 7790 system with app_config set to 1 CPU for every 0.5 GPU. 1 WU ran for 8600 seconds, reported and errored out. :(
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zombie67
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Finished two tasks (at a time) on my TITAN. Took 8400 seconds each. 6500 credits each. That works out to ~133k/day.
Running 6 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 15,500 seconds. That works out to ~218k/day. So 6 is better than 2. I will drop it to see what 4 does.
Running 4 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 10,500 seconds. That works out to ~214k/day. So 4 is better the same as 6, and no added value running more than 4. I will drop it to see what 3 does.
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myshortpencil
I removed and reinstalled Poem in a Win7, x64, AMD A8-3870k, XFX 7790 system with app_config set to 1 CPU for every 0.5 GPU. 1 WU ran for 8600 seconds, reported and errored out. :(
I wonder if maybe this project requires DP? Has anyone gotten a SP-only card to return valid results? All my cards are DP, so I can't tell.
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Originally Posted by
myshortpencil
I removed and reinstalled Poem in a Win7, x64, AMD A8-3870k, XFX 7790 system with app_config set to 1 CPU for every 0.5 GPU. 1 WU ran for 8600 seconds, reported and errored out. :(
Hey I have an A8-3870k/7790 system too! I've errored a few and completed a couple. I'm backing off for now until the project team gets the erroring under control.
http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/results.php?hostid=153998
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zombie67
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zombie67
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Finished two tasks (at a time) on my TITAN. Took 8400 seconds each. 6500 credits each. That works out to ~133k/day.
Running 6 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 15,500 seconds. That works out to ~218k/day. So 6 is better than 2. I will drop it to see what 4 does.
Running 4 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 10,500 seconds. That works out to ~214k/day. So 4 is the same as 6, and no added value running more than 4. I will drop it to see what 3 does.
Now this is odd!
Running 3 at a time on the TITAN:
Task run time = 6,900 seconds. That works out to ~243k/day. So 3 is better than 4. But how is 3 faster per task than 2???. I think I may have run that 2-per set with CPU tasks also running. I think I will try re-sunning 2-per w/o CPU tasks, to get apples to apples comparison.