I had a moment of weakness and I did it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-630-_-Product
This boinc thing is insidious! ...and I like it!
/sping
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I had a moment of weakness and I did it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-630-_-Product
This boinc thing is insidious! ...and I like it!
/sping
Utterly Insane........ which makes you my new hero :-bdQuote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
:)
I"m guessing I'll get a "small" boost in credit productivity when I replace my aging gtx260(216). :P
Very small... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
Of course, if you want help becoming a Mega Milestone chaser, I'm more than happy to help you out in ways to use that card...
Ah, any help is welcome.
My initial plan had been to use my cpus for the projects that seem interesting to me and use my gpu for credit whoring. Luckily enough, I do have an interest in PG, so my gpu was used for both interest and credit. But...
I noticed this thing called mega milestones, and so, I just joined every project that I could.
I'm currently running both cpu and gpu on everything that comes my way. I intend on building a farm, but that will be slow in coming and may not really get going until after summer.
You want to help us at PrimeGrid? Oh you are my new hero!Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
I have been building up my systems for the June 20th PG challenge. Hope to see you there!
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/challenge.php
You Da Man!!!^:)^^:)^^:)^^:)^^:)^@-)@-)8->8->8->=D>=D>=D>Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
You have me so excited now...Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
Maxwell's intro to MM chasing: Get on the list.
What do I mean by that? Well, in order to keep the size of the tables down, there is a set minimum number of milestones you need to attain in order to show up on the list. Once you reach that minimum, your rank will show up on the "Mega Milestone" table on your stats page on Free-DC. My first goal when I was starting was just to get on the list.
You have four 250k projects, and the minimum there to make the list is 4. Yay! Congrats! You're close on several others, too.
Strategies:
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).
- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.
- WUProp: Always run this. Free credits.
I'll stop talking now. If you want more MM chaser strategery, let me know. And if you want to truly be a badass, add the suffix "[MM]" to your name on every project (brackets included, quotes are not). That will get you to show up on this stats page. ;)
Max why not Pirates? How could you skip it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxwell
http://pirates.spy-hill.net/ work is rare and sporadic that if your not connected to it you might miss the whole set before its posted to the board. As a MM I would think that would be on top because the only way to get an MM in it is to crunch it for Years. Its also a low resource credit.
You definitely don't want to run a ton of projects all at once. BOINC seems to run better when focusing on one or two particular projects at a time (for CPU). You'll also want to make sure you're attached to FreeHAL and WuProp as those are not cpu-intensive, run alongside other projects, and are basically free credits.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
You're right. Pirates falls off my radar some times since I've been crunching it for 2 years and still only have 7k. But yes - always be attached to pirates. It never hurts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dandasarge
And I agree with CBS. ;)
That is one sweet card! Go for the gold!:)
Sorry for the late response, busy day.Quote:
Originally Posted by rgathright
Yes! I finally decided to join a team because I didn't just want to build credits, I wanted direction and to be part of something. I'll help in any way I can.
But, I"m going on a geology field trip for a couple of weeks during that time. I don't think I could leave my machines on during that time without supervision. I could have someone I know do it for me though. Is it as simple as having my machines setup to crunch PG at that date? Or do I need to be around?
Wow, nice info. There should be a strategy section of the forum for MM with this as a sticky. I'm going to make the changes you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxwell
Some concerns:
1) Is there a way to change my name all at once or do I need to actually go to each project one by one.
2) I use boincstats currently to manage my projects. Is Free-DC basically the same thing? and do I need to use that instead?
3) Is there a list of which projects I should be running first, once I slim down my active project list? Perhaps some of the projects are at the end of their lifecycle and I should get on those first?
Anyways, great info.
/sping
Are you corrupting our youth again Max!?! :p;)
They have to be changed individually at each project. But you have it pretty easy compare to some of us... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
http://stats.free-dc.org/cpidtagb.ph...theme=2&cols=3
What do you mean exactly? You use BOINCstats to monitor your credits? Or you use BAM to manage projects? Free-DC is a stats site (the best!), but it does not have an account manager. So I use BAM for managing projects, and Free-DC for monitoring stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
So true :)Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
Yes, that's what I meant :) BAM! and you answered my question, thanks.Quote:
What do you mean exactly? You use BOINCstats to monitor your credits? Or you use BAM to manage projects? Free-DC is a stats site (the best!), but it does not have an account manager. So I use BAM for managing projects, and Free-DC for monitoring stats.
Changed... except for PG. I like the idea of getting badges, so I want to keep running the LLR stuff. Sharing the gpu with projects other than PG will lessen my credit output for the team, but I guess there is no way around that.Quote:
- Disable CPU crunching on any project that has a good GPU app. No sense using the CPU for something the GPU could knock out in a few minutes. (DNETC, PG, MW, Moo, SETI, SETIbeta).
Hmm, apparently FreeHAL only has '1 WU/core' settings for home/work/school. My main box is using the 'default' preference for all my projects. Will need to change that.Quote:
- FreeHAL: I see you're on it, make sure you have 1 WU/core (NCI) checked, and credits will trickle in. It's awesome.
There are several ways to administrate your systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
BAM: BOINC Account Manager (BAM) is a fairly useful method of managing one or more systems running BOINC. There is no direct connection to a users computer with BAM. Everything is done via the BAM website. For me the two biggest issues using BAM are
*The more systems you need to manage with BAM the more convoluted it becomes since to fully manage even one system requires moving between several web pages.
*Any changes made on the website are not immediately realized on the managed system(s) until the next time it/they are scheduled to contact the BAM website.
BOINC Manager(s): All BOINC account manager apps use the RPC network protocol for communicating with the BOINC Daemon a.k.a. Boinc.exe. The major concern is that RPC is a very insecure protocol which makes any system connected to the internet with it vulnerable. There are methods to make it more secure like "wrapping" the RPC connection in a VPN Tunnel or some other Tunneling Protocol.
VNC: Virtual Network Connection (VNC) is an established method for controlling a PC remotely. There are many different versions available. Some have a free license for use and others are commercial and require payment for use. Unfortunately VNC shares the same vulnerability as a BOINC manager, RPC. Most VNC apps have incorporated some form of security but can be problematic to implement. Some of the more popular VNC apps include TeamViewer and UltraVNC among others.
Administering my meager farm of 2 machines has been relatively simple so far and boincstats BAM is pretty effortless. All of my machines are going to be at my home, so that makes it easier on me. I plan on using a combination of vnc and ssh in a mix of windows and linux (cuz it's free!).
The point I was trying to make about being on vacation was that the only way I can add my machines to the competition would be to let a friend or family come in and turn my boxes on for that duration. I will be incommunicado with no connectivity to my home network at all.
I'm not setup yet to allow for 24/7 running due to the summer heat unfortunately. I was going to either try a separately AC'd room or the garage. Not sure yet. When I crunched in the past, I just left a bunch of machines at work where it was nice and cool. Doing this at home takes a lot more planning. It makes me feel like such a newb. :)
OK. Well on Windows you could set up a few scheduled tasks to change which projects get crunched on or after system start up. If you do that in conjunction with your BOIS to start and stop your system if it has that feature. Then all a friend would have to do is boot up the system at your chosen time of day.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
Proudly. Recruiting to the best subteam. We have cookies!Quote:
Originally Posted by joker
I'm personally not a badge person, but others (like zombie67) are. They're like "within project Mega Milestones". Cool stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
Oh god. This is awfully complicated of a question, and can best be answered if you tell us what hardware you're crunching with...Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
If I were spingadus, what would I do?
1. Send Maxwell the 590
1. Crunch FreeHAL and WUProp always and without fail on every machine.
2. Take the 590 and run PG up to 10M (shouldn't take much longer than a week). [This will get you to show up on the 2.5M, 5M, and 10M MM lists, as the minimum for those is one].
3. Like CBS said earlier, don't crunch everything all at once. Pick one or two projects at a time, and go for them.
4. CPU-wise, I've heard rumblings of Enigma and Cosmology being in scary positions of "maybe we'll close"
5. Pick a MM threshold and crunch every CPU project to that level before you concentrate on anything else. I started off crunching to 10k, then moved on to 100k. If I were you, I'd start with crunching to 10k.
6. Once you hit your 10M in PG, crunch Collatz to 1M (will get you to show up on the 1M list; minimum = 2 in that category).
7. Give Maxwell some of your LHC credits...
7. Take a credit-whore perspective for a bit, and run up some of the high-paying CPU projects to an awesome level. Aqua and Primaboinca are easy to run up pretty high at the moment.
8. Start taking up the other CUDA projects to your goal level.
9. etc...
Of course, ask questions along the way. The MM crew has pretty much been everywhere, so we'll probably be able to help you out...
To heavy your answer.
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This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
It should all be ready to go. The only questionable variable will be the friend or family member that I ask to do it.
I think that guy misunderstood what 'rice rocket' meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of Buckingham
Is that a guy???Quote:
I think that guy misunderstood what 'rice rocket' meant.
Lets run out of here that guy is going to fall
http://www.theequinest.com/images/bearback.jpg
This sounds like myself. I want it all!!!Quote:
I'm personally not a badge person, but others (like zombie67) are. They're like "within project Mega Milestones". Cool stuff.
I'm going for MM, but I also want badges and stuff... and I want to help out the team for rank... and I want credits...and cookies are good :)
I currently have 2 machines(planning on more).Quote:
Oh god. This is awfully complicated of a question, and can best be answered if you tell us what hardware you're crunching with...
1) i7 920 soon to have a gtx 590
2) core 2 duo soon to have a gtx 260
I plan on building a new machine by the end of summer to replace my old i7 and no longer new gtx 590. Too bad Keplar isn't coming soon.
After that I'm going to build as many pc's as I can from scraps and cheap parts.
Buy me a winning lottery ticket.Quote:
If I were spingadus, what would I do?
Can I take a 5 year raincheck on that?Quote:
1. Send Maxwell the 590
Will do, minus the LHC credits :PQuote:
1. Crunch FreeHAL and WUProp always and without fail on every machine.
2. Take the 590 and run PG up to 10M (shouldn't take much longer than a week). [This will get you to show up on the 2.5M, 5M, and 10M MM lists, as the minimum for those is one].
3. Like CBS said earlier, don't crunch everything all at once. Pick one or two projects at a time, and go for them.
4. CPU-wise, I've heard rumblings of Enigma and Cosmology being in scary positions of "maybe we'll close"
5. Pick a MM threshold and crunch every CPU project to that level before you concentrate on anything else. I started off crunching to 10k, then moved on to 100k. If I were you, I'd start with crunching to 10k.
6. Once you hit your 10M in PG, crunch Collatz to 1M (will get you to show up on the 1M list; minimum = 2 in that category).
7. Give Maxwell some of your LHC credits...
7. Take a credit-whore perspective for a bit, and run up some of the high-paying CPU projects to an awesome level. Aqua and Primaboinca are easy to run up pretty high at the moment.
8. Start taking up the other CUDA projects to your goal level.
9. etc...
PS. I stopped all new tasks except for PG and moo!(cuz i want to help), wg(badges) and the nci stuff.
/sping
The name is "Pat"Quote:
Originally Posted by joker
This is just my thoughts....If you want max credits from your current video cards (as zombie stated), keep them on PG for now. It will eventually get you the higher end MMs. Use your CPUs to get the lower end MMs. In your future rigs, get yourself some ATI/AMD cards to get more MMs in other projects. All credits acquired help the team! I hope the MM guys dont hate me for saying this. ;)Quote:
This sounds like myself. I want it all!!!
I'm going for MM, but I also want badges and stuff... and I want to help out the team for rank... and I want credits...and cookies are good
Nope. That's actually not incompatible with my advice. Well played, sir. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joker
Does this mean I'm gonna have to fend off another "Team Member" from stalking my current position?
I hate Moo!...Well not really hate, but am displeased with them. Some Team members state they can run Moo! in 10 mins. or less per/WU, but it takes me 2+ hours to do them. That makes me unhappy. I'll stick with Dnet for that credit.
If I've done my math anywhere close to right, that one 590 card should pull down around 1m credit/day if not more/maybe a bit less, running PG. I would put that sucker to work on PG and leave it there for the ultimate in credit gathering.
Of course being a [TopGun] makes me very biased, but I know what I'm doing.
Lately, I see some other members dropping off in production. This makes me wonder.....what IS it all about? Weather, electric bills, being away from home whilst on trips? Excessive heat in the basement?.......Who knows?
Or should I say....What is it ALL about?
Well....
It's about the TEAM!
It's about the Glory!
It's about the FUN!
It's about Challenge!
It's about WINNING!
It's about BEING NUMBER 1!
How much difference is crunching for BOINC is there as compared to watching football, baseball, racing, or, anything else?
Well, here's the answer..........(drum roll......)
When you're watching TV on all the sport channels, that's all you're doing...Watching!
When you're crunching on all the BOINC projects, YOU ARE PARTICIPATING! SUDDENLY, you are NOT just a spectator, you are a PLAYER and YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!!!
I vote we somehow get CRUNCHING initiated as a true SPORT in life!
Wouldn't that stir up some $hit?
Yo-
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
The easiest way to that is with batch files having commands using BOINC's command line tool called boinccmd.exe. You can find a complete list of its commands here. Just copy and paste the whole page to a text file for reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus
For a how to for Windows 7 Task Scheduler look here. Although it really isn't that hard to figure out.
One last bit. I have this "Thing" about having to click through multiple menus to run stuff I use constantly. So back in my Windows 2000 days I made a custom Microsoft Management console (MMC) for my most used Windows tools which includes Task Scheduler. The cool part is that it also works on XP, Vista and Win7. This attachment Attachment 207 contains that file if you want to use it. Just put the file in a folder of your choice and right-click on it and send it to the Desktop as a shortcut.
Also, if you need any help or have any questions just post it/them in this thread.
Enjoy.
I'm getting 700k from my 570. That card is 2 570 or 580's. ( I forget which one) It should do 1.25 a day on pg.Quote:
Originally Posted by YoDude9999
As far as crunching goes I don't quite see it in the same vein as football, hockey, etc I hate Boston any team from Boston and wish they never win another game again. With crunching I don't wish i'll on the other teams. Just wish they'd come over to our team.. We have cookies. @-)
Just saw my electric bill. I figured 2 Dual cores, 2 i7s and 5 video cards running 24x7 would really jack up my electric bill, but the chart comparing this year and last year shows my crunching only being about 200 kilowatts extra a month. I guess I can add another board or another GPU. I wanna get to 2Mil a day so another card would do it.
This is really totally insanity.
Epic fail on my part.
I didn't consider that my case wasn't deep enough for my new 590. Talk about a let down.
:(
I have 5 days before I go out of town, so I need to decide what i'm going to do. I can either get a larger case and transplant everything into it or get a new full system. Not running my 590 is giving me anxiety.
ugh.
I have one system that runs, "Open Air", no case at all.
Yo-
Can you remove a side panel?
I have some room, send it to me and I will break it in for you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by spingadus