Soon SETI.Germany.
SETI.USA can easily climb until 6th, it's in our range, but the the gap to 5th place is sooo huge.
Come on, let's crunch for NFS@Home!
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Soon SETI.Germany.
SETI.USA can easily climb until 6th, it's in our range, but the the gap to 5th place is sooo huge.
Come on, let's crunch for NFS@Home!
We will go there in time Carlos. Is not so huge as it seems. We are SETI USA and together we will accomplish amazing things even that gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
After all we have the amazing Mumps, the incredible Zombie and the unbelievable Seti USA team that will defeat that gap in a flash if it wants to.
As always, time is on our side. Time and good friends against that gap. I don't think the gap will win. :D
In fact the gap suddenly seems so small.
Meanwhile we already passed SETI.Germany and we are just behind BOINC@Taiwan. Then it will be Russia.
BOINC@Taiwan is down, Russia is next. SETI.USA team is now 8th.
Congratulations to all that are crunching the project and make our daily credit grow again. I have been seeing the team position on the project everyday and I am following it with the biggest attention. Thanks Mumps for your BIG help and Carlos you have that kind of passion about factorization that we must admire. You are decided and the proof that loving something is the best engine, it is so good that you are having some team mates with you. and you will have more and more sooner than you think.
Thank you very much to all that are helping. I will be with you after simap challenge. I don't know why but I think we are going higher on this project also. So Thanks to Mumps [MM], Carlos Pinho, denim, Mike029.SETI.USA [BlackOps], Steve, PJS, ChessNut and Dusso Janladde. SETI USA on his way to the first position and why not on this project also.:D
515,906
on daily credit for
24th September 2012
I haven't stopped crunching this project since the moment I started on it 3 years ago. :)
I will be with you, sooner than you think and denim congratulations for crunching this project.
OK, I've finally created an account on NFS so I will do some work until SIMAP starts but I will do more afterwards.
Thank you for joining. To get the most of NFS@Home please choose the lasievef or lasieve5f application at http://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/...subset=project. 1GB per thread is needed. Linux is a must.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
For a big amount of reasons NFS is not compatible to run with Poem at least for me, so I will run NFS till Poem challenge start and will return to the project later Carlos.
I need some hours to finish some old tasks but will be there tonight.
Ric
Ricardo, maybe it's related to the application used. How much memory Poem tasks use?
No Carlos it is not. It is because I have not enough cores to run both and running only one task with one core is not good because it uses only about 40% of the GPU and it is a real waste.
My other computer had a problem with the on/off switch and now the internal "spring" of the switch (mola do interruptor) simply doesn't force the switch out that was since Saturday and I am going to try to fix it today if I have time. So the computer starts and forces the shut down immediately.
Let us try to help Carlos for a small time on NFS. The ones among you that can help on this project give a small help for us to gain this two positions and get closer to Sicituradastra. I know about Poem but the ones among you that have cores available please give a small help.
Thank you for your help.
Carlos how can we make more points at NFS? Sorry I didn't understood very well this explanation about all those letters on NFS tasks. Tell us about the points we are credit addicted. Some of us are ...
Ric
To get the most credits you need at least 1GB per core/thread available.
Then go to http://escatter11.fullerton.edu/nfs/...subset=project and set up the clients like this:
Run only the selected applications
lasieved - app for RSALS subproject, uses less than 0.5 GB memory: no (36 points per wu)
lasievee - work nearly always available, uses up to 0.5 GB memory: no (44 points per wu)
lasievef - used for huge factorizations, uses up to 1 GB memory: yes (65 points per wu)
lasieve5f - used for huge factorizations, uses up to 1 GB memory: no (65 points per wu)
Offtopic: just looked at Top Host stats and my old GenuineIntelIntel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz is ranked 15th by daily average. Another week and I am in top 10. Hehe.
I have my lappy on it as well. Any free cores are for NFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
Keep the faith Carlos. We will get to hit this project hard in the near future. :cool:
Ditto here. **==Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike029
Russia is out, next L'Alliance Francophone.
6 days left to catch L'Alliance Francophone. I moved my machine from 16e siever to 16e V5 siever. I think the wu's are faster to process so I will get more points, ~1,000 more. Within 1-1.5 days I will have the answer because my queue is 200 wu's, 160 so far queued with 16e V5 wu's, 40 left to process (6 hours). I just hope 1.3GB/core is enough to run these V5 wu's on an Ubuntu VM, if not I will have to increase to 6 GB the memory available to Ubuntu VM.
Yesterday was my first day running full 16e V5 wu's and managed to go up to 12k points, more 800 points instead of the 1000 I was expecting, not bad?!
We are almost getting the French, then a long slowly way until Sicituradastra. Already tried to convince Ben ( bdodson*) to move to us but I didn't get a reply from him yet. The good news is that he hasn't got anymore the computer labs available to run BOINC so it is not expected any kind of reaction from Sic team.
Carlos
There we go Carlos. LaF is now history. About 2 months now and we'll catch up to Sic.
Thank you. I'll be joining you on Tuesday, post-processing integer 375086223641_19_minus1 is less than 48 hours to be completed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumps
I've thrown a few cores here myself till next months Simap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumps
Mumps is amazing. =D>
Nice Mumps, without Free-DC I am lost on the team output. I should have noticed. Congratulations to all the team but most of all to you Mumps as Mike said you are amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumps
Just to be more precise here's the output of msieve client on this run:Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
Anyway, about sieve, to maximize the output credit, and for the ones who have at least 1300 MB per core available, the 16e V5 siever must be chosen.Code:Wed Oct 31 22:24:08 2012
Wed Oct 31 22:24:08 2012
Wed Oct 31 22:24:08 2012 Msieve v. 1.50 (SVN Official Release - LARGEBLOCKS)
Wed Oct 31 22:24:08 2012 random seeds: 77bf3b0c 085cd5c7
Wed Oct 31 22:24:08 2012 factoring 1167570646484191377535353322180266763735664953957904707873553881556819645769713440931370640023320740066674318485626443540085012823990089718447007371117260115567964875081105832937 (178 digits)
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 searching for 15-digit factors
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 commencing number field sieve (178-digit input)
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 R0: -52770758963018706770631191307763721
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 R1: 1
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A0: -1
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A1: 0
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A2: 0
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A3: 0
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A4: 0
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A5: 0
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 A6: 375086223641
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 skew 1.00, size 5.817e-012, alpha 0.799, combined = 2.367e-013 rroots = 2
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 commencing relation filtering
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 estimated available RAM is 8183.1 MB
Wed Oct 31 22:24:09 2012 commencing duplicate removal, pass 1
Wed Oct 31 22:24:19 2012 error -1 reading relation 1108801
Wed Oct 31 22:24:30 2012 error -15 reading relation 2725595
Wed Oct 31 22:28:35 2012 error -9 reading relation 39117935
break...
Wed Oct 31 22:46:53 2012 error -1 reading relation 216908443
Wed Oct 31 22:47:08 2012 error -15 reading relation 219007996
Wed Oct 31 22:47:25 2012 skipped 74360 relations with b > 2^32
Wed Oct 31 22:47:25 2012 found 40099897 hash collisions in 221116636 relations
Wed Oct 31 22:47:52 2012 added 1221696 free relations
Wed Oct 31 22:47:52 2012 commencing duplicate removal, pass 2
Wed Oct 31 22:53:25 2012 found 39164210 duplicates and 183174122 unique relations
Wed Oct 31 22:53:25 2012 memory use: 1321.5 MB
Wed Oct 31 22:53:25 2012 reading ideals above 195756032
Wed Oct 31 22:53:25 2012 commencing singleton removal, initial pass
Wed Oct 31 23:14:42 2012 memory use: 3012.0 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:14:42 2012 reading all ideals from disk
Wed Oct 31 23:15:15 2012 memory use: 2908.5 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:15:21 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:15:28 2012 begin with 183174122 relations and 149225158 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:16:44 2012 reduce to 111975669 relations and 69969361 ideals in 16 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:16:44 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 35
Wed Oct 31 23:16:52 2012 reading ideals above 720000
Wed Oct 31 23:16:52 2012 commencing singleton removal, initial pass
Wed Oct 31 23:35:02 2012 memory use: 2756.0 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:35:02 2012 reading large ideals from disk
Wed Oct 31 23:36:42 2012 keeping 82119142 ideals with weight <= 20, target excess is 9577302
Wed Oct 31 23:38:54 2012 memory use: 2674.7 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:38:54 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:38:59 2012 begin with 111975669 relations and 82119142 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:39:49 2012 reduce to 111934758 relations and 82078212 ideals in 8 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:39:49 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:40:22 2012 removing 11749375 relations and 9749375 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:40:26 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:40:31 2012 begin with 100185383 relations and 82078212 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:41:14 2012 reduce to 99535275 relations and 71665194 ideals in 8 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:41:14 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:41:43 2012 removing 8734172 relations and 6734172 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:41:46 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:41:51 2012 begin with 90801103 relations and 71665194 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:42:25 2012 reduce to 90374524 relations and 64496725 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:42:25 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:42:51 2012 removing 7747590 relations and 5747590 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:42:54 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:42:57 2012 begin with 82626934 relations and 64496725 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:43:28 2012 reduce to 82245753 relations and 58360660 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:43:28 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:43:52 2012 removing 7172403 relations and 5172403 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:43:54 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:43:57 2012 begin with 75073350 relations and 58360660 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:44:29 2012 reduce to 74702847 relations and 52810088 ideals in 8 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:44:29 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:44:50 2012 removing 6784149 relations and 4784149 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:44:52 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:44:55 2012 begin with 67918698 relations and 52810088 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:45:19 2012 reduce to 67548734 relations and 47647479 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:45:19 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:45:38 2012 removing 6522358 relations and 4522358 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:45:40 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:45:43 2012 begin with 61026376 relations and 47647479 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:46:07 2012 reduce to 60667481 relations and 42757340 ideals in 8 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:46:07 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 20
Wed Oct 31 23:46:24 2012 removing 6331446 relations and 4331446 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:46:26 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:46:28 2012 begin with 54336035 relations and 42757340 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:46:47 2012 reduce to 53971984 relations and 38051782 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:46:47 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 19
Wed Oct 31 23:47:02 2012 removing 6095778 relations and 4095778 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:47:04 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:47:06 2012 begin with 47876206 relations and 38051782 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:47:22 2012 reduce to 47445637 relations and 33511106 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:47:22 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 19
Wed Oct 31 23:47:35 2012 removing 5975908 relations and 3975908 ideals in 2000000 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:47:36 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:47:38 2012 begin with 41469729 relations and 33511106 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:47:51 2012 reduce to 41034270 relations and 29083680 ideals in 7 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:47:51 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 18
Wed Oct 31 23:48:02 2012 removing 2900113 relations and 2059194 ideals in 840919 cliques
Wed Oct 31 23:48:03 2012 commencing in-memory singleton removal
Wed Oct 31 23:48:05 2012 begin with 38134157 relations and 29083680 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:48:15 2012 reduce to 38009933 relations and 26898011 ideals in 6 passes
Wed Oct 31 23:48:15 2012 max relations containing the same ideal: 18
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 0 large ideals: 1366556
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 1 large ideals: 5630441
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 2 large ideals: 11118032
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 3 large ideals: 11169558
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 4 large ideals: 6125965
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 5 large ideals: 1951373
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 6 large ideals: 439867
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 relations with 7+ large ideals: 208141
Wed Oct 31 23:48:27 2012 commencing 2-way merge
Wed Oct 31 23:48:41 2012 reduce to 27772823 relation sets and 16660901 unique ideals
Wed Oct 31 23:48:41 2012 commencing full merge
Wed Oct 31 23:51:37 2012 memory use: 1589.6 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:51:40 2012 found 14511497 cycles, need 12985101
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 weight of 12985101 cycles is about 909114508 (70.01/cycle)
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 distribution of cycle lengths:
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 1 relations: 1720611
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 2 relations: 1358436
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 3 relations: 1461902
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 4 relations: 1438798
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 5 relations: 1393848
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 6 relations: 1274072
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 7 relations: 1128944
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 8 relations: 968744
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 9 relations: 805913
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 10+ relations: 1433833
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 heaviest cycle: 14 relations
Wed Oct 31 23:51:42 2012 commencing cycle optimization
Wed Oct 31 23:51:57 2012 start with 67526284 relations
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 pruned 2891473 relations
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 memory use: 2098.3 MB
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 distribution of cycle lengths:
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 1 relations: 1720611
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 2 relations: 1412670
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 3 relations: 1558887
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 4 relations: 1529571
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 5 relations: 1490410
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 6 relations: 1339695
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 7 relations: 1170294
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 8 relations: 961981
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 9 relations: 755379
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 10+ relations: 1045603
Wed Oct 31 23:53:44 2012 heaviest cycle: 14 relations
Wed Oct 31 23:54:00 2012 RelProcTime: 5391
Wed Oct 31 23:54:00 2012
Wed Oct 31 23:54:00 2012 commencing linear algebra
Wed Oct 31 23:54:02 2012 read 12985101 cycles
Wed Oct 31 23:54:19 2012 cycles contain 33757662 unique relations
Thu Nov 01 00:00:05 2012 read 33757662 relations
Thu Nov 01 00:00:55 2012 using 20 quadratic characters above 2147483580
Thu Nov 01 00:03:25 2012 building initial matrix
Thu Nov 01 00:10:09 2012 memory use: 4496.6 MB
Thu Nov 01 00:10:47 2012 read 12985101 cycles
Thu Nov 01 00:10:50 2012 matrix is 12984017 x 12985101 (3824.0 MB) with weight 1124615431 (86.61/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:10:50 2012 sparse part has weight 859609585 (66.20/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:14:24 2012 filtering completed in 3 passes
Thu Nov 01 00:14:28 2012 matrix is 12953530 x 12953730 (3819.2 MB) with weight 1123090599 (86.70/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:14:28 2012 sparse part has weight 858702262 (66.29/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:46 2012 matrix starts at (0, 0)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:50 2012 matrix is 12953530 x 12953730 (3819.2 MB) with weight 1123090599 (86.70/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:50 2012 sparse part has weight 858702262 (66.29/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:50 2012 saving the first 48 matrix rows for later
Thu Nov 01 00:15:53 2012 matrix includes 64 packed rows
Thu Nov 01 00:15:55 2012 matrix is 12953482 x 12953730 (3641.8 MB) with weight 885109762 (68.33/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:55 2012 sparse part has weight 825141290 (63.70/col)
Thu Nov 01 00:15:55 2012 using block size 262144 for processor cache size 8192 kB
Thu Nov 01 00:16:17 2012 commencing Lanczos iteration (4 threads)
Thu Nov 01 00:16:17 2012 memory use: 4508.0 MB
Thu Nov 01 00:18:31 2012 linear algebra at 0.0%, ETA 305h32m
Thu Nov 01 00:19:15 2012 checkpointing every 50000 dimensions
....
Mon Nov 12 11:56:15 2012 linear algebra completed 11644361 of 12953730 dimensions (89.9%, ETA 30h59m)
Carlos
2012-11-11
NFS@Home
471,907
29,586,739
I'm back to sieve, let's try to reach Sic team shall we?
BTW, here's the log file of my post-processing run so that SETI.USA members can understand how long can take an integer to post-process. It was done on Win 7 core i5 750 @3.4 GHz 8 GB , I don't earn BOINC points.
Attachment 1191
The filtering phase is done under one core (RelProcTime: 5391 secs), linear algebra phase in all cores (4, BLanczosTime: 1105618 secs) and finally the square toot phase one core only (sqrtTime: 17118 secs).
If I had all cores running 16e V5 siever (BOINC) for the same amount of time as the post-processing, taking into consideration that no cores are idle as in filtering and square root phases, this run would get me something like 163.6k BOINC points.
So far I have made at NFS@Home an equivalent of 400k BOINC points with post-processing.
Carlos
I need to know when will SETI.USA make a full run on NFS@Home otherwise I will concentrate my effort on another math project where I can get some math granted.
Thank you in advance,
Carlos
Carlos, I can't say when that would happen. This time of year in the U.S. has many members focused on the holidays. Yo may wish to relight the fire say around January?
I won't be here, I'll be moving to another country to live where I will have no internet access for awhile nor a computer to crunch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire$torm
Carlos
That's a real bummer. Oh well, hope you enjoy the new location and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
Peace,
F$
We will miss you and your posts Carlos. I really hope that all go for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
I just reached a milestone as the best Portuguese NFS@Home cruncher so my work here is done. I'll leave the machine on NFS@Home until December, maybe I'll reach 1M.
Carlos
With one week break on NFS@Home to run POEM I am back to NFS@Home. I was wondering if 2,1037- will be sieved until the end of the year..
I will be back on NFS soon at least with one box. Ran Numberfields for a couple of days and now I'm doing the SIMAP thing.
Thank you Fire$torm.
Yesterday took a few minutes of the day to be where my remote machine is and decided to clean the dust out of it. Now it is going faster than ever, at least I notice on NFS@Home wu's a slice speed increase.
Also just started to prepare my new journey, my new life...the good news is that, where I am going to, the electricity is cheaper than where I am now, I suppose half the price. Hydroelectric power instead of coal power, more renewable.
It's sad but it will be last Christmas I will be passing with all my family...that hurts.
Carlos
Wow, I'm really slipping!:o Didn't even see this thread. Carlos, looks like you have been doing a great job rallying the troops to take positions in this project. I commend you for this! Hope when you get settled, we can revisit this and throw some more power at it! Haven't been involved in a real stomping for a while, except for SIMAP. Bad time of year at work and holiday crap. We have a presentation we need to do for the company exec's and of course our annual Inventory and then the holidays and for the beggining of the year, we have Audits for different projects. This makes my brain explode this time of year.:mad: Stay in touch if you can and maybe we can crush this thing!
Our country is getting worst at everyday and we are all struggling not to drown on this big confusion. If I was younger I would go to another country also.Quote:
Originally Posted by pinhodecarlos
To be present to our family and friends as nothing to do with distance, we can live the next door without speaking or half a world distance without ever being a stranger. The only thing that distance makes is for us to see our determination of sticking together.
But I know what cost me when I had to go to Brazil at the age of 28 some 27 years ago. Now I have friends on both sides of the Atlantic and when I am on one side a bit of my heart is in the other.
I hope you can find the place you deserve on this earth on a country that needs you and can appreciate your skills.
It is with hope on a better future that I am telling you this, if we hadn't hope what would be of us?
Ricardo, I don't have faith in our country anymore. Lost my hope on finding a job...my last cards played will or not have affect in this month of December as a scholarship student at university or as a PhD student. Anyway, already paid for an exam in Brazil to apply for a public job and it is schedule to mid January 2013. I will be dormant but I will be back stronger than ever on crunching.
For here the guys to understand I live in Portugal, a country where when you age 30's you are too old to work. If you have three high degree's it means you have lots of qualification to work....that's the issue in Portugal, a country of tourism and services. Industry is dying due to old European standards agreed by our politicians. Portugal is dying, people are getting very poor. Children when born are left on hospitals because these parents can't fed them due to lack of money.... because meanwhile they lost their jobs...it's very sad. I feel angry, revolted with my country. What we earn is to pay taxes, to pay the bills, nothing is left to invest in your country like going to a movie, restaurant, etc...We don't circulate money, we try to save the least.
I wish I was a sniper...lol
Sorry for the words...
Carlos
Brazil is a great country and you will be very happy there. I am so sure of that. They are very nice people. Speak what you want that I can only agree with you, sometimes I have the same ideas as you do. They destroyed our country completely.
Don't be a stranger Brazil as more computation power and better Internet that you can imagine and Brazil IS BIG, in all senses. I have a brother living there as you know and 5 of my 7 ex-wives are Brazilians.
Man I was very happy there and sometimes I wish I hadn't returned but I will fight for my country now. It is your turn to be happy in Brazil.
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