Is there any update concerning Moo not running on 7xxx cards or did I miss it?
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Is there any update concerning Moo not running on 7xxx cards or did I miss it?
Not that I know nanoprobe. Lately they have a lot of 5 hours tasks to crunch that I noticed it changed..Quote:
Originally Posted by nanoprobe
Has anybody got a 7970 Card to run the Moo GPU Wu's ? if so what does it take to make them work ... Thank's
Yeah I tried that too last month and wu's went crazy.
There is a link to a custom app that will run them. Hang on, let me find the post.
Edit: Here you go:
http://www.setiusa.us/showthread.php...ll=1#post68830
My 7970s won't work on Moo! either, then again, neither will anything else I have. Moo! is a train wreck for me. Fire$torm is probably one of the better resources on the team. He runs it pretty consistently, but I believe he runs it on 5800 series.
Okay & Thanks Z, I downloaded it & will give it a try latter ...Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
Well the Files seems to let me run the Moo ATI GPU WU's on my 7970, that is until the system crash's because the GPU is running at over 100 degree's even with the fan running at 100%, so I still can't run them on the 7970. Maybe it's just that card, will try on another 7970 later tonight or tomorrow, taking the wife to a movie right now so don't have time to mess with it anymore now ...
I was waiting to hear how you fared. I had the same problem...way to hot to make it worth the effort. It happened on both 7970s, an MSI and a Gigabyte.Quote:
Originally Posted by STE\/E
Even runs too hot if you forcibly downclock the cards to sub-factory speeds? Especially for the RAM...
Well yes, sort of. Stock clocks, memory as low as it will go, fans 100%. Still too hot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mumps
I have a 7870 coming from Newegg, should be here by Monday or Tuesday, don't know if that will run the Moo Wu's or not but will give it a try, it's a Double Precision Card so maybe it'll work ... I'll try Down-clocking the 7970 tomorrow & see what happens ...
I went out & dropped the Memory Voltage as low as it will go, the Core Voltage to 1000 & the Fan set on 80% & the GPU @ it's stock 925 setting, I don't think dropping the Memory helped at all as the Card still wanted to overheat, it's the Core Voltage that needs to be dropped if their over heating ...
I'm also only running 7 of the 8 Threads in HT Mode on the i7 3770K running at stock speed, so far the Card seems to be staying at about 65* @ 95%-96% GPU Usage with those settings with a run time of about 19 Min's ... If it stays running like this I'll maybe try another 7970 ...
dnetc_r72_1388516548_12_768_0 21230220 22437 31 Dec 2013, 19:29:52 UTC 1 Jan 2014, 12:52:33 UTC Completed and validated 1,122.32 55.88 6,144.00 Distributed.net Client Anonymous platform (ATI GPU)
I hope this works out for me, I'll be able to get my 9'th 250 Million Project :D :p ;) during the Winter Here in Mich & don't have to try for it in the Hotter summer period ... [..]
Okay, Ste\/e, your good fortune made me try it again. I had totally forgotten that I had put the Extreme cooler on the Gigabyte after my last run in with Moo! So on that Gigabyte, oc to 1125, stock volts, memory at stock and fan on auto, 60c. Times are about 17.5 minutes.
Not sure what's different on the other card, but I have nothing to complain about there either. After several bouts of computational errors I managed to get Moo! to run correctly. Temps are running about 80c on auto, oced to 1125, stock voltage, stock memory speed...times are running about 17.75 minutes each. Maybe I bad mouthed Moo! too soon and it was really my issue. No, that couldn't be it. :o
Hey Great, I got mine running at 1000 Core now with the Voltage still at 1000, Temps went up about 5 degrees. I don't want to go any higher than that & take a chance on over heating again. I figure running under 19 Min's will give me very close to 500k a day which I can live with off of 1 Card. I'll fire up another 7970 or 2 or 3 or ? lol tomorrow if this Card runs okay over night on the Moo Wu's ...
Have a second 7970 running okay now, run's cooler than the other one but at the same speed & Times, think that will be it for now, don't want to get the urge to Order 12 more 7970's just to run the Moo Project ... lol ... still got 4 sitting Idle now so I don't need anymore sitting Idle ... :/
^%$#@@#$%^&*(*&^%$^&* .... The freaking 7970 & 7870 Card's are acting up on the Moo Wu's, they seemed to run alright for almost 2 weeks but now get hung up on 69% Completion, I've tried everything to get them to run right, under volting, down clocking core & memory, rebooting but they keep messing up after a bit ... )(*&^%$#$%^&*(*&^%&*(
Wonder if it's a code thing. You've tried:
- stock app vs. opti app? Not all opti apps are optimal
- Different projects? Collatz is always a good benchmark since it seems to be well coded
- Milky Way? How does it work there?
Just seeing if it's the card, or the card and the app not playing nice. I have the same issue with one of my EVGA GTX 570s. Took a combination of downclocking and finding the right app to make it stable. All the while my other 570 (MSI) runs like clockwork.
Neither one of the 7970 MSI Cards I have will run the Moo Wu's now, one of the was running them for over a week then started messing up, so I tried the other one but it wouldn't run them either. I have a 7870 that's running them okay now after I fiddled with it & a different brand 7970 running them okay too after fiddling with it, don't know how long either will run them though. As I'm posting this though I notice the 7970 taking longer to run than it has been running the Wu's so I'll have to go look at that one again & see if it's okay.
The problem isn't that they won't run the Wu's but that they keep downclocking themselve's and take forever to run them. Up to 7 Hr's I seen a few of the Wu's, I'm going to try another 7970 Card, different brand than MSI & see if it'll run the Wu's ...
Moo runs on no one of my AtiCards, 7970,7950,6950 or 5870. WUs can be downloaded but they would never start.
The only possibility I have is to run Moo as the one and only GPU Project, add a second one and the project is dead.
Yeah, I'm down to 1/2 7970 running @ 50% GPU Load, that's the best it'll do now, had to shut the 7870 & the other 7970 down, taking way to long to run the Wu's. Will probably have to shut this one down too & that will be it for me on Moo. I'm simply not going to bang my head against the wall trying to get these projects to run on the GPU's, BOINC just not worth it any more to me if I have to do that ...
Well that just sucks! You finally find a project that pulls all those pretty gpus out of retirement and it stalls on you. Fire$torm where are you? Since they have been working just fine, it sounds like your got a bad grouping of wus. I'd abort what you have and hope for some that will work. What are you, 40k from your goal? Sorry it has to happen now, but keep the faith.Quote:
Originally Posted by STE\/E
More like 42 Million, I've aborted the Wu's several times but it does no good, I'm going to run just the lone 7970 for now even if it runs them slower than it should, I'm out of idea's for now ...
Don't you have any nvidia cards? Use those instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by STE\/E
Or if you don't have any, set up a trade. Someone else crunches moo for you, and you crunch MW (or whatever) for the other guy.
Save yourself the stress.
FWIW, I would trade you, but my nVidia cards are busy right now.
Well I don't have any 79xx cards but the 5 ATIs I do have run Moo just fine. (Free-DC)Quote:
Originally Posted by conf
Nexus: 5830 / CAT 13.4 / BOINC 7.0.31
Odin: 5830 / CAT 13.9 / BOINC 7.0.64
Blackie: 5870 / CAT 12.6 / BOINC 7.0.31
Dark Matter: 5870 / CAT 12.6 / BOINC 7.0.31
Trinity: 6970 / CAT 13.4 / BOINC 7.0.31
And all boxes except Nexus have nVidia GPUs running Collatz.
I asked before about trading work but nobody wanted to do something like that, the Nvidia cards are to slow too & don't pay very good, not sure but I may have a reason why the 7xxx Cards quite running or are running the Wu's so slow all of a sudden, will check it out & post about it it I'm right ...Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
If I'm not able to get them to run Moo anybody that wants to trade work Moo for ? let me know & we'll see what we can work out, I have to make sure the 7xxx cards will run anything before trading work ...
The 1 7970 I left running over night ran okay for 8+ Hr's, this morning when I got up I noticed Chess@home had work again so I downloaded more work from Chess & the 7970 Box started messing up again. I went out & ran all the Chess@home Wu's out on the 7970 Box then restarted BOINC & it appears to be running okay again. Why the Chess Wu's are messing up the Video card I have no Idea but if it stays running okay without running Chess as soon as I'm done with Chess I'll try the other Box's & see if they run okay ...
Now that Chess@home is over for awhile at least I'm messing with the 7xxx Cards again on MooWrap, I have 2 Gigabyte 7970's & a TruePower 7870 running Stable right now but who knows how long that will last. I also have a GTX 580 running the Moo Wu's but will probably shut that down if the other ATI 7xxx Cards keep running Stable. It can only get about 100k a day so not really worth it unless it's a last ditch resource to get to 250 Million on Moo.
I have a MSI 7970 running too but it still is giving me fits, wants to drop to 50-60 % GPU load and run's the Wu's slower than the 7870 run's them, if it keeps messing up I'll just shut that one down. I thought it was Chess@home causing the problems but found out it wasn't that either. This morning when I fired the ATI back up I gave the 2 Gigabyte 7970's 2 of the 8 Threads instead of 1 & that seems to be working so far on the those 2 Cards, the 7870 seems to be alright with just 1 of the 8 Thread's. Keeping my fingers crossed & hope this works ...
I set the Ave & Max CPU Usage to .5 on one of the 7970's & it ran okay like that for a couple Hr's so I set the other ATI Box's to the same, it gets me 4 Threads back, not sure about the run times, if anything it might be a hair slower but will have to wait for more Wu's done to tell for sure ...
Well the 7xxx Cards all ran okay so far for the last 24 Hr's or so using just 1 Thread. I had to go back to 2 Threads on the MSI 7979 Card cause it wouldn't run Stable on 1 Thread, kept dropping back to 50% or so GPU Usage on 1 Thread but seems okay with 2 Thread's. The GTX 580 has been messing up for the last 6-7 Hr's though or at least I think it has anyway. It was running the Wu's in less than 20 Min's but then started taking over 1 hr. I installed the latest NVIDIA Drivers & the latest BOINC Client but it still want's to run a lot slower than it was running MSI Afterburner say's it's using 98& GPU Usage though. I haven't let one finish so I don't know if they will Validate for more Credit or get the usual 20% Credit the ATI Cards get. I was going to shut the 580 down anyway but will let it finish this GPU Wu & see about the Credit. I'll just fire up another 7970 this afternoon to more than make up for the 580 running so slow ... :rolleyes:
EDIT: I guess the 580 is okay, it's taking about 4 Times as long to run the Moo GPU Wu's but it's getting about 4 times the Credit too so I got Excited about nothing on the 580 ... :rolleyes: ... I need a spare Cheap yet fairly productive NVIDIA Card so I'm thinking about a GTX 660, can get one of those for under $200, a 670 cost over $300 & I don't want to spend that much on a card ...
Keep in mind that there are different size tasks at Moo. So if your 580 is getting more credit, it is because it is running the bigger tasks. That would also account for the increased run time.Quote:
Originally Posted by STE\/E
I didn't realize that, all the Nividia Wu's ran the same amount of time (20 min's) until late last night then the started running longer (80 min's) & that threw me off ...Quote:
Originally Posted by zombie67
If I recall correctly, the more powerful the card, the bigger the tasks are assigned by the server. There are at least two sizes. Maybe more. So be sure to look at tasks of the same credit value, when comparing run times.