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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    OK, thanks! I'll watch the prices here. Any idea when the 3950 is due to see if it's worth the wait?

    EDIT: Not to derail this CPU thread, but are there any new "good deal" for crunching GPUs on the horizon or is it kind of we got what we got for a while and just look for a good sale around Labor Day or something like that?
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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    3950X is supposed to come out next month. Could be delayed a month due to really high demand of the 3900X. Some people who ordered one on launch day are still waiting lol

    Radeon VII is still the best crunching GPU from AMD and 2080 Ti the best from Nvidia. Nothing spectacular going on for a few months with GPUs.

    I did mention TR3 would be out in Q4, but i heard a rumor the other day it could be this month. It's possible but don't get your hopes up. Makes more sense to launch them in October which is when Intel is launching some new overpriced Xeons.


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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    Yeah but neither of those Navi GPUs are better than the VII. Cheaper though.


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    the Navi is horrible at DC at the moment. I got the 50th anniversary one and very very disappointed.
    7/15/2019 10:36:11 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary (driver version 2906.8 (PAL,LC), device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2906.8), 8176MB, 8176MB available, 4685 GFLOPS peak)
    4685 GFLOPS peak? Seems like they need to sort that thing out
    I traded it for the wifey's 1070ti. It's kinda beast with games though

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    Good to know. I was waffling back and forth between 5700 XT and VII. I almost got the 5700 XT because the power consumption was so much better, and the numbers looked reasonable. Glad I went with the VII based on your experience.
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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    The VII really shines with undervolts. I ran all 4 of my VII at 1006mV with stock Clock 1801mhz and stock Mem Speed 1000mhz on almost 99% of the projects. The only project I had to raised the voltages a bit (1030mV) was Einstein.
    Moo, Milky, Collatz, PrimeGrid, Seti were all fine with that low voltage.That puts the power consumption on par with the 5700XT 50th anni. I don't have a 5700XT to compare but it shouldn't be far off.
    On projects that favor Nvidia, like PrimeGrid/Collatz/Moo/ , the VII held its ground.
    PrimeGrid: RTX 2080 = 1.9m/day, Radeon 7 = 1.7m/day
    Collatz: RTX 2080 = 13m/day, Radeon 7 = 11m/day
    Moo: RTX 2080 = 1.95m/day, Radeon 7 = 1.7m/day

    But then when it comes to projects favor AMD's card like Einstein or Milky. Those RTX can't even see the VII's behind lol
    Einstein: Radeon 7 = 1.7m/day, RTX 2080: phoenicis rented AWS
    Milky: Radeon 7 = 1.9m/day, RTX 2080: phoenicis rented tesla v100-sxm2-16gb


    I find that the driver 19.6.1 is the best driver for the Radeon VII. So no need to beta test the newer one yet lol

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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    So I saw the latest driver just came out a couple days ago. Curious if anything changed, so I downloaded and clean installed it.

    8/2/2019 11:59:23 PM | | OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary (driver version 2906.10 (PAL,LC), device version OpenCL 2.0 AMD-APP (2906.10), 8176MB, 8176MB available, 4685 GFLOPS peak)


    hmmmmmm ... update my 5700XT 50th Anni to the latest driver. Running Seti and it looks weird
    https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/resu...hostid=8784349

    waiting to see if anything got valid, because this thing is now chewing Seti 15 seconds per task ... WTF

    [img width=1600 height=620]https://images.xtremesystemsteam.org/images/2019/08/03/3947e50743a1a2000fb3fc4e98f9a143.png[/img]

    it'll be a miracle if they all aren't error out
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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    I just looked, the 3900 CPU is sold out at the moment, so yeah...I might be a while on this. Wonder if they will get them in stock for Labor Day / "back to school" time sales?

    For the GPU, do you think the 5700 XT is really that inferior for crunching due to its hardware, or is it likely a software issue they can sort out eventually? Because in games they look awfully close - like what, 3 to 4% difference between performance of the 5700 XT and the VII, right?
    I currently just have 3 NV cards, and as much as I have historically liked AMD and would enjoy supporting them again, these 3 NV cards have been the quietest, least power consuming GPUs I've crunched on.

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    Re: Ryzen 3000

    The 5700XT is hard to tell because it's a brand new architecture. AMD has their issues, but we also have to account in the Boinc's side. Are the current codes ready to take advantage of the new tech? We don't know yet. Plus, if the project admin is busy with other stuffs then it can be years before things can be sort out. I think it's just the software side of things right now, but then the 5700XT is using DDR6, so it's no different than Nvidia cards ... except for the architecture ... which is unproven at this point. I'm not techinical guru or anything, just use my common sense and hand on experiences. The VII used HBM2, that's the different when it comes to compute. Now, if Navi had used HBM2 instead of DDR6, it'd been a whole different story. But, again,I'm not an expert. There must be a reason for them not to use HBM2.
    I'm not a fan boy on any side. Which ever gives me the best performance per dollar then I'm all for it. I loved the GTX 1070ti and the GTX 1660ti as well ... but other stuffs from Nvidia either over prices or under performance.

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