Ok, I understand, bummer. Well, yeah SB-E is turning out to be quite the beast. I think it's just a cut down 8 core XEON - which means at some point, we'll probably see an 8 core CPU for the socket 2011. *drool* Yeah, I really like that mobo Z is thinking about now, because it give the most options for GPU flexibility down the road. Which may be important, depending on how many more projects come out with GPU apps. I mean, if even WCG is talking about a GPU app, I think the writing's on the wall!