Haswell

[John P. Myers]

Anyways...what i had originally meant to post before my CPID decided to bend me over the kichen table...

Yes. Haswell. Intel's successor to ivy bridge. Yes it might be a year or 2, but it's worth the wait. Save your money.

Personally, my plan was to sell my i7-2600K (which i did) so i could pick up an i7-3770K for the Maxwell Spanker. However, it seems MSI will not be offering the BIOS upgrade for the Big Bang Marshal. And yes, i sent them a couple of emails letting them know how i felt about that, especially since they ARE offering the BIOS upgrades on all the motherboards the kids are using to play WoW and surf porn. So yes. I learned my lesson. Never should've bought anything other than Gigabyte

What i am going to do though is buy a 2700K and be happy with what i've got. I had considered putting the Marshal on eBay and getting something else, until i read about Haswell today. For those curious, the higher-end Haswell's have a projected on-die GPU performance 2x to 3x higher than Ivy Bridge. What caught my eye though was L4 cache And not just any L4 cache, but L4 cache on a separate die, making the Haswell CPUs a 2-chip set. Also will have up to 8 cores and 32MB of L3 cache. L4 cache is rumored to be up to 1 GB.

So yes, i'll not be spending another penny on SB-E or IB. I'm waiting for Haswell.

[Fire$torm]

Sweet, thx for the info. Not that I'll be able to afford an upgrade........

[coronicus]

wow that reminds me so much of the old days.. think it was the first pentium were you could purchase L2 cash memory modules.. I hope this means more cores can be pushed onto one die while still having a great amount of cash memory.

[Mike029]

Any Idea of a price? Ballpark?

[John P. Myers]

Any Idea of a price? Ballpark?

No not yet. And i'm sure alot more details will come out about it in time. It's still pretty far off from being launched. One other thing though is Haswell will be 22nm just like Ivy Bridge, but there will be a die-shrink to 14nm called Broadwell a year after Haswell is released. This time i'll be sure not to be stuck with a high-end MSI board they refuse to allow to ugrade

[DrPop]

Mmm...thanks for coming back around and giving us all the updates again!
But, suppose I need one more rig within the next 3 to 6 months; would IvyBridge be your pick for a 24/7 cruncher or would you go something else?

[John P. Myers]

Mmm...thanks for coming back around and giving us all the updates again!
But, suppose I need one more rig within the next 3 to 6 months; would IvyBridge be your pick for a 24/7 cruncher or would you go something else?

No i'd go with Ivy Bridge if you have to have another rig. But for upgrading the ones you've got, i'd wait.

[John P. Myers]

"Intel will be bringing out higher TDP processors for this platform, packing up to 14 cores, with the CPUs being available at different clock speeds and with different amounts of enabled cores. All of them will exceed the 95W TDP envelope of Sandy Bridge (the new Ivy Bridge TDP is 77W). According to Intel, these CPUs will come in at 120W, 135W, 145W and 160W TDP. Turbo Mode made the current consumption hit 120 amps. The real jewel in the crown though, is that Haswell silicon is designed to work at up to 190 amps with just air cooling."

Once again, i'm still waiting for Haswell

Edit: oh yeah, it will also support DDR3 and DDR4 RAM as well

[Fire$torm]

Any word on pricing?

[John P. Myers]

Any word on pricing?

nothing yet. looking like it'll be around 20 months before they're released unless ivy bridge ends up crashing and burning, which it should imo probably won't find out any pricing until 3-4 months before release.

Edit: "In keeping with Intel's tick-tock principle, the 14 nm shrink of Haswell is due out the year after the introduction of the microarchitecture and will be codenamed Broadwell."

There's a fair chance Haswell mobos will not be compatible with Broadwell. Instead of the external cache chip being added to Haswell, Intel decided to only add it to Broadwell, so it would be important to only purchase Haswell mobos that are also setup for the extra Broadwell chip as well. Though it is still possible Broadwell will still work with the 2nd chip being optional. Remains to be seen.