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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Quote Originally Posted by John P. Myers View Post
    Yes the 3980X 8-core SB-E should be out sometime in Q2 (by June 30th).
    Durn, the "X" means $1000+, I was hoping for the $400 price range


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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Durn, the "X" means $1000+, I was hoping for the $400 price range
    Hmmm. The 3930k = $570. Adding 2 more cores won't make it cheaper....

    Here's a question: Why is the 3.3ghz ($1070) more expensive than the 3.5ghz ($1050)?

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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Quote Originally Posted by zombie67 View Post
    Hmmm. The 3930k = $570. Adding 2 more cores won't make it cheaper....

    Here's a question: Why is the 3.3ghz ($1070) more expensive than the 3.5ghz ($1050)?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=LGA%202011
    The 3.3 have 20W less consumption and less consumption is less heat, the turbo gives 3.9 to 4.0 of the 3.5.. In there should be the explanation. Maybe the internal connections are different that would explain the internal resistance of the CPU and consumption.
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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    I think you've got it. The 3.3GHz hits almost same speed (only 100MHz less on turbo) while using 20W less. In CPU terms, that is a chunk of watts. So you're likely paying for better binned silicon - less impurities or defects or whatever. If you gave the 3.3 CPU all 150W, it's possible O/C might be higher than the 3.5 CPU. Of course if it's not setup to handle it, that also might fry your $1K CPU, so I probably wouldn't try it!!!

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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Intel IB-based Xeons - Confirmed Sexiness because we all know they eventually turn into IB-E

    *Xeon E5-2400 v2 processors for socket LGA1356 (not a typo) will have up to 10 cores and execute up to 20 threads simultaneously. Preliminary launch date of the Xeon E5-2400 v2 series is Q1 2014.

    *Xeon E5-2600 v2 series will have up to 12 cores and execute up to 24 threads simultaneously. The maximum size of L3 cache will be 30 MB. On-chip interfaces will include 2 QPIs, up to 40 lanes of PCIe 3.0, and 4 DDR3 memory channels, that will work with DDR3-1866 memory. Expected launch is Q3 2013.

    *Xeon E5-1600 v2 series, which will be available at the same time as the E5-2600 v2, will have up to 6 cores and run up to 12 threads at once.

    *Xeon E7 v2 and "Brickland" platform will be released in Q4 2013. These CPUs will incorporate up to 15 cores and execute up to 30 threads simultaneously. L3 cache up to 37.5 MB. Supports up to 24 DIMMS per processor - quad channel. 3 QPIs and 32 lanes of PCIe 3.0.

    EDIT: Some comparisons between SB-E and IB-E

    Current: Core i7-3820 - 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.6 GHz base, 3.9 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 10 MB, RAM: DDR3-1600, 130 Watt TDP
    Future: Core i7-4820K - 4 cores, 8 threads, 3.7 GHz base, 3.9 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 10 MB, RAM: DDR3-1866, 130 Watt TDP

    Current: Core i7-3930K - 6 cores, 12 threads, 3.2 GHz base, 3.8 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 12 MB, RAM: DDR3-1600, 130 Watt TDP
    Future: Core i7-4930K - 6 cores, 12 threads, 3.4 GHz base, 3.9 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 12 MB, RAM: DDR3-1866, 130 Watt TDP

    Current: Core i7-3970X - 6 cores, 12 threads, 3.5 GHz base, 4 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 15 MB, RAM: DDR3-1600, 150 Watt TDP
    Future: Core i7-4960X - 6 cores, 12 threads, 3.6 GHz base, 4 GHz turbo, L3 cache: 15 MB, RAM: DDR3-1866, 130 Watt TDP

    Future = Novemberish
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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    My only question about Intel silicon: Will Intel continue to integrate the "feature" that will allow Corporate Hollywood to control what a user has stored on their drives?


    Edit: See this post ---> http://www.setiusa.us/showthread.php...-on-Ivy-Bridge
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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    That article wasn't quite accurate. All it actually does is allow you to watch movies provided to you from a site which uses the Intel Insider service. Essentially the movies are encrypted by these cites so when they're sent out over the internet they can't be intercepted and saved on some hacker's hard drive since it can only be decrypted with the Intel Insider decryption garbage. I can personally vouch that Intel Insider does not block you from watching pirated movie DVDs or Blu-Rays. It also does not prevent you from watching a movie you're streaming that was recorded illegally. I may or may not have watched Thor using the latter method, and if i did *cough* Intel Insider made no attempt to stop me. The only thing Intel Insider does is prevent people from pirating content from companies that do use Intel Insider. Charlie (SemiAccurate) is known to exaggerate things a bit.
    The technology known as Intel Insider does one thing and one thing only. It protects movies delivered from service providers that are specifically using Intel Insider to protect their content. It has to be enabled on the service provider side. Consumers with Intel Insider enabled PCs will have access to content in higher resolution (1080P) and potentially earlier release.

    Intel Insider in no way affects any other new or existing media. It does not matter if you buy from iTunes, use home movies, or buy from a CD store, rip from vinyl, or from an 8-track, or bit-torrent. Intel Insider will not touch it.

    The only people that will be negatively affected are those who wish to pirate content from services that support Intel Insider.

    Intel Insider will not stop you from playing, manipulating or ripping optical media such as a DVD or Blu-ray disk (but those technologies have separate existing safeguards [known as HDCP]). Intel Insider does not affect P2P services.
    As i stated, i may or may not *cough* have tested this, and Intel is telling the truth. If you're not using a service that uses Intel Insider, Intel Insider is doing nothing to your computer.


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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Okay... *cough* *cough*


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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire$torm View Post
    Okay... *cough* *cough*
    Wait! I didn't say turn your head to the left yet!

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    Re: Upcoming Intel Haswell performance

    Just revealed that 3 of Haswell's new CPUs will be BGA only, besides the ones meant for laptops, ultrabooks, etc. The i5-4570R and i5-4670R are both quad core CPUs. To make things worse, there's also the i7-4770R, which is quad core with hyperthreading. Why did i say worse? Because for those looking forward to crunching with Intel's on-die GPU, all 3 of these BGA-only CPUs come with HD 5200 graphics, instead of HD 4600 found on the rest of the desktop Haswell's. Bastards.

    In short, the R suffix seems to denote BGA only. On top of that, HD 5200 comes with it's own on-package VRAM.


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