Apologies everyone, I touched base with a couple of you because I missed some team efforts. Tried to stay in it by moving around World Community using my phone. Got a few 5 year projects. Anyway, give me a week to prime the machines. Please help me save a little time and send me any new projects you can think of, lets me cut and paste. You know us newbies, never prepared. Winter is coming and I have to get the cards running so I can heat the house. How come when I write that last statement down it makes sense but if I say it to my wife it doesn't? You do realize you can't just walk away from crunching. WHY? WHY? WHY? Thanks for any help and I'll be getting in touch with some of you. Patrick