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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    How much would you suggest? I will have to see how the heat buildup goes. This is an old dual core HP that happens to have 4 pci slots! Already running 1 of these in it now. Gonna buy two more with the rebate for April and some ram as well.

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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1 View Post
    How much would you suggest? I will have to see how the heat buildup goes. This is an old dual core HP that happens to have 4 pci slots! Already running 1 of these in it now. Gonna buy two more with the rebate for April and some ram as well.
    At least double it. But you may run into a problem. I'll take a guess and say your system uses DDR2. With DDR2 you will need to double check system requirements and inspect what kind of sticks are already installed as some systems can use only single sided sticks (RAM chips occupy only one side of the circuit board) and other systems do not allow a mix of single and double sided sticks. Of course you will also have to purchase RAM that matches the speed of what you have already, unless you plan on replacing the old stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coronicus View Post
    Man that sucks... Wish knew some tricks to make it work...
    What driver version is everyone using? 296.10 for me and it fails or doesn't do anything on collatz. Think it could be the card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazy k View Post
    What driver version is everyone using? 296.10 for me and it fails or doesn't do anything on collatz. Think it could be the card?
    I'm using 285.62 on my 2x570 system win7 64. My winxp 32 system with 2x430 and a 560ti 448 core uses 285.66. No problems running anything.



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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by krazy k View Post
    What driver version is everyone using? 296.10 for me and it fails or doesn't do anything on collatz. Think it could be the card?
    JPM's first post in this thread only mentioned that he used this card on Dirt. For my 8800GT I still use 266.58 and can crunch Dirt, Moo & Donate. I'll give Collatz a try and report back asap.

    Edit: Collatz is now running on my 8800GT so give 266.58 a try.

    2nd Edit: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-wi...ql-driver.html
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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by Fire$torm View Post
    At least double it. But you may run into a problem. I'll take a guess and say your system uses DDR2. With DDR2 you will need to double check system requirements and inspect what kind of sticks are already installed as some systems can use only single sided sticks (RAM chips occupy only one side of the circuit board) and other systems do not allow a mix of single and double sided sticks. Of course you will also have to purchase RAM that matches the speed of what you have already, unless you plan on replacing the old stuff.

    Question: Which HP model do you have?
    Whoops! Its a Dell Dimension DIME521
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

    Any Idea what I could put in this old beast? It only has two ram slots if I remember correctly...Considering I thought it was an HP up until now.

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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by kaptainkarl1 View Post
    Whoops! Its a Dell Dimension DIME521
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+

    Any Idea what I could put in this old beast? It only has two ram slots if I remember correctly...Considering I thought it was an HP up until now.
    Good Evening, Cap'n! Well hmmm...sometimes it is worth upgrading the old beast and sometimes not. I have been round and round myself on stuff like this at many times in my life. The biggest question that comes to mind is, this being a "mini" BTX system, can you fit a good PSU in there? If not, what is the wattage of the current PSU? That is likely to be your limiting factor on an old Dell / HP / insert "Brand" here.

    CPU: If you want to use the stock cooler on the CPU (i.e. you don't want to mod the case!) then the best CPU you can stick in there is the AMD Athlon X2 6000+ for just shy of $50 - this is due to the 6400+ CPU taking a lot more watts, and the stock cooler probably can't hack it.

    RAM: 4GB DDR2 800 (as in four sticks of 1GB supported) Not sure, but *sometimes* with the latest BIOS update you can get 2 sticks of 2GB working in these old things, but they only have 32Bit Memory addressing in the chipset, so the chipset is limited at 4GB (actually Windows will only see 3.5GB - no matter if you run 64bit version or not).

    GPU: Pretty much sky is the limit for crunching because you have a PCI-e X16 slot w/ 8GBs/sec bandwidth. No worries there, even though it's only revision 1 of PCi-e, the card will crunch no problem! The issue here is going to be PSU - can you put a more powerful PSU in this rig? If not, you are limited to the 305W of the original Dell PSU. Not many "big" PCI-e GPUs can run off of the little you will have to give it - perhaps you could throw a GTX 460 in there, and be safe - but that would mean NO other GPUs at all - don't even think about doing anything else to it on the stock PSU.
    Your 2 PCI slots you *could* fill up with the PCI version of the GTX 430 they are talking about in this thread as well. Depending on how big your primary GPU is that you stick in that PCI-e slot, heat may become a problem - or you can just leave the case off if it's in the right setting!

    Hope this helps a little.

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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by DrPop View Post
    Good Evening, Cap'n! Well hmmm...sometimes it is worth upgrading the old beast and sometimes not. I have been round and round myself on stuff like this at many times in my life. The biggest question that comes to mind is, this being a "mini" BTX system, can you fit a good PSU in there? If not, what is the wattage of the current PSU? That is likely to be your limiting factor on an old Dell / HP / insert "Brand" here.

    CPU: If you want to use the stock cooler on the CPU (i.e. you don't want to mod the case!) then the best CPU you can stick in there is the AMD Athlon X2 6000+ for just shy of $50 - this is due to the 6400+ CPU taking a lot more watts, and the stock cooler probably can't hack it.

    RAM: 4GB DDR2 800 (as in four sticks of 1GB supported) Not sure, but *sometimes* with the latest BIOS update you can get 2 sticks of 2GB working in these old things, but they only have 32Bit Memory addressing in the chipset, so the chipset is limited at 4GB (actually Windows will only see 3.5GB - no matter if you run 64bit version or not).

    GPU: Pretty much sky is the limit for crunching because you have a PCI-e X16 slot w/ 8GBs/sec bandwidth. No worries there, even though it's only revision 1 of PCi-e, the card will crunch no problem! The issue here is going to be PSU - can you put a more powerful PSU in this rig? If not, you are limited to the 305W of the original Dell PSU. Not many "big" PCI-e GPUs can run off of the little you will have to give it - perhaps you could throw a GTX 460 in there, and be safe - but that would mean NO other GPUs at all - don't even think about doing anything else to it on the stock PSU.
    Your 2 PCI slots you *could* fill up with the PCI version of the GTX 430 they are talking about in this thread as well. Depending on how big your primary GPU is that you stick in that PCI-e slot, heat may become a problem - or you can just leave the case off if it's in the right setting!

    Hope this helps a little.
    I found this on Dell's website and gave a shot at trying to recreate the formatting here. What a pain in the arse........

    ================================================== =========




    Processors


    Processor type


    AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 dual-core processor
    AMD Athlon 64 processor
    AMD Sempron™ processor


    Level 2 (L2) cache


    Up to 1 MB per core
    Up to 256 KB for Sempron processors






    Memory


    Type


    533-MHz, 667-MHz, 800-MHz (when available) DDR2 SDRAM


    Memory connectors


    four


    Memory capacities


    256 MB, 512 MB, or 1 GB non-ECC


    Maximum memory


    4 GB





    NOTE: See Addressing Memory With 4-GB Configurations to verify the amount of memory available to the operating system.





    Computer Information


    Chipset


    Nvidia GeForce 6150LE


    RAID Support


    RAID 1 (Mirroring)


    DMA channels


    eight


    Interrupt levels


    24


    BIOS chip (NVRAM)


    4 Mb


    NIC


    Integrated network interface capable of 10/100 communication





    Video


    Type


    Nvidia integrated video (DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 Graphics Processing Unit) or optional PCI Express x16 graphics card





    Audio

    Type


    Sigmatel 9227 CODEC (7.1 Channel audio)





    Expansion Bus 


    Bus type


    PCI 2.3
    PCI Express 1.0A
    SATA 1.0 and 2.0
    USB 2.0


    Bus speed


    PCI: 133 MB/s




    PCI Express:




    x1 slot bidirectional speed - 500 MB/s




    x16 slot bidirectional speed - 8 GB/s




    SATA: 1.5 Gbps and 3.0 Gbps
    USB: 480 Mbps high speed, 12 Mbps full speed, 1.2 Mbps low speed


    PCI


     


    connectors


    two


    connector size


    124 pins


    connector data width (maximum)


    32 bits


    PCI Express


     


    connector


    one x1


    connector size


    36 pins


    connector data width (maximum)


    1 PCI Express lane


    PCI Express


     


    connector


    one x16


    connector size


    164 pins


    connector data width (maximum)


    16 PCI Express lanes


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    Links:

    Specifications - Dell™ Dimension™ E521 Service Manual

    Removing and Installing Parts - Dell™ Dimension™ E521 Service Manual

    Dell™ Dimension™ E521 Service Manual

    Dell™ Dimension™ E521 Manuals - PDF Format
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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Oh darn! The rebate expired. On 4/30. Wait... What's that you say? There's another $20 rebate now available that 's good until the end of May? Oh happy joy!

    Now I wonder if the May rebate "limit of two" is independent of the April limit.

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    Re: Zotac GT 430 PCI slot GPU info

    Quote Originally Posted by Mumps View Post
    Oh darn! The rebate expired. On 4/30. Wait... What's that you say? There's another $20 rebate now available that 's good until the end of May? Oh happy joy!

    Now I wonder if the May rebate "limit of two" is independent of the April limit.
    I only see it for the PCI Express versions, not the PCI version.
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